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I just get the feeling Cornwell is being held to some very high standard because he's committed to Alabama. Since he did not make the final Elite Eleven, his talent is being questioned. Of course, Keller Chryst didn't either and there's been very little said about that.

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CapstoneGrad06 said:

I just get the feeling Cornwell is being held to some very high standard because he's committed to Alabama. Since he did not make the final Elite Eleven, his talent is being questioned. Of course, Keller Chryst didn't either and there's been very little said about that.

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Good point. But there are others here who believe Cornwell could compete for a starting job as a true freshman. The criticism and the expectations are unfair at this point.

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CapstoneGrad06 said:

I just get the feeling Cornwell is being held to some very high standard because he's committed to Alabama. Since he did not make the final Elite Eleven, his talent is being questioned. Of course, Keller Chryst didn't either and there's been very little said about that.

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Following things on Twitter, I've seen some ridiculous comments. People asking how Cornwell or other top rated QBs got their ranking with their performance at Elite 11. Other folks replying with the rankings don't revolve around certain drills and 7-on-7 games from one weekend.

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Phillip Sims and Star Jackson did well at these Elite 11 and 7 on 7 competitions, how did they turn out?

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The criticism of David Cornwell at the Opening is being led by Super Star QB (tongue in cheek), Trent Dilfer. (rolls eyes) Trent is no expert and I do not see why ESPN continues to use him for college football analysis.

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derek4tide said:

The criticism of David Cornwell at the Opening is being led by Super Star QB (tongue in cheek), Trent Dilfer. (rolls eyes) Trent is no expert and I do not see why ESPN continues to use him for college football analysis.

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How is Trent no expert? Because he wasn't a GREAT NFL QB? CNS is an expert on cornerbacks, and never played in the NFL... You can't discount someone's opinion because of a mediocre career a the HIGHEST LEVEL OF ORGANIZED SPORTS. I watched a lot of the Elite 11, and what he said about Cornwell was spot on. Cornwell has all the physical measurables, and when he is on he is just "Wow" good. He isn't consistent though. The same can be said of a ton of HS QB's when they compete in camps like this. Dilfer never spoke harshly against Cornwell, he just relayed what he saw. Which was correct. That has no bearing on how good he will be in the future...

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Matt0424 said:

He isn't consistent though. The same can be said of a ton of HS QB's when they compete in camps like this.

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I agree. At that age, with the limited experience they have, consistent is a very tall order.

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brutetough said:

I agree. At that age, with the limited experience they have, consistent is a very tall order.

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What most people don't realize is that most of these guys (especially QB's) are in for a shock when they hit the circuit and start throwing against top rated safeties and corners for the first time. Even at the highest levels of competition for these guys (larger Florida, Georgia, Texas or California classifications for one) they don't see the overall caliber of talent that the suddenly have to throw against. Being half a tick off goes from being a late ball caught, to a tipped pass, to now a pick... The only other position aside from QB that has such an eye opening experience would be linemen. Other offensive or defensive skill players (WR, RB, CB, S, LB) tend to do better in camps because they have to play their position, and use their ability...while QB's rely on so much more then just "I have a strong arm".

It's not a knock on any kid to be inconsistent as a rising JR. It is what it is.

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Matt0424 said:

How is Trent no expert? Because he wasn't a GREAT NFL QB? CNS is an expert on cornerbacks, and never played in the NFL... You can't discount someone's opinion because of a mediocre career a the HIGHEST LEVEL OF ORGANIZED SPORTS. I watched a lot of the Elite 11, and what he said about Cornwell was spot on. Cornwell has all the physical measurables, and when he is on he is just "Wow" good. He isn't consistent though. The same can be said of a ton of HS QB's when they compete in camps like this. Dilfer never spoke harshly against Cornwell, he just relayed what he saw. Which was correct. That has no bearing on how good he will be in the future...

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Dilfer knows his stuff but he's also very biased towards QBs with similar skillset to his own. He's often unjustly critical of larger pocket passers.

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CapstoneGrad06 said:

Dilfer knows his stuff but he's also very biased towards QBs with similar skillset to his own. He's often unjustly critical of larger pocket passers.

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Because at 6'4" 245 lbs, Dilfer is a small mobile guy?

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How is Trent no expert? Because he wasn't a GREAT NFL QB? CNS is an expert on cornerbacks, and never played in the NFL... You can't discount someone's opinion because of a mediocre career a the HIGHEST LEVEL OF ORGANIZED SPORTS. I watched a lot of the Elite 11, and what he said about Cornwell was spot on. Cornwell has all the physical measurables, and when he is on he is just "Wow" good. He isn't consistent though. The same can be said of a ton of HS QB's when they compete in camps like this. Dilfer never spoke harshly against Cornwell, he just relayed what he saw. Which was correct. That has no bearing on how good he will be in the future...

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I completely agree it amazes me that if someone says something not good about one of our guys they have to be an idiot of some sort...Cornwell is awesome but of course he has flaws he is still in high school people and please do not bring up his highlights yes they are great but their his highlights rtr

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Matt0424 said:

How is Trent no expert? Because he wasn't a GREAT NFL QB? CNS is an expert on cornerbacks, and never played in the NFL... You can't discount someone's opinion because of a mediocre career a the HIGHEST LEVEL OF ORGANIZED SPORTS. I watched a lot of the Elite 11, and what he said about Cornwell was spot on. Cornwell has all the physical measurables, and when he is on he is just "Wow" good. He isn't consistent though. The same can be said of a ton of HS QB's when they compete in camps like this. Dilfer never spoke harshly against Cornwell, he just relayed what he saw. Which was correct. That has no bearing on how good he will be in the future...

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I wasn't basing it only on his NFL career. Where did I say that? I am basing on watching him on ESPN and seeing his analysis. You should never assume anything.

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CapstoneGrad06 said:

Dilfer knows his stuff but he's also very biased towards QBs with similar skillset to his own. He's often unjustly critical of larger pocket passers.

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This has been my perception of him for years. I agree totally.

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derek4tide said:

This has been my perception of him for years. I agree totally.

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he's almost the exact same size as Cornwell; its not like dilfer is a 6', 180 spread type QB.