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So you see another team rising up to Dynasty level?
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That's why I picked Texas A&M, because being in Texas, he will always be able to recruit Blue Chip QB studs within Texas to run his offense, and make no mistake about it, when "Johnny Football" leaves, Coach Sumlin will have a quality QB to take his spot, and the longer he's there, he'll recruit play makers to help run his offnse at all spots on offense..Coach Sumlin just needs to hire a really good DC & allow him to run the D..Will he produce a "Dynasty" at Texas A& M, I dunno, but everything he needs to do it is at his disposal..
He needs to get 'er done now while Texas is down, once they replace Mack Brown at Texas, with a competent HC that can field a quality football program..It will be harder than it is now to control things in Texas..
He has to compete with other teams like us too. We try to steal as much talent from Texas as we can every year. (see Bralon Addison).
You make a valid point..Texas produces a lot of talent, Texas & Texas A&M, will always have 1st picking of the best of the best that the state produces just cause most recruits wanna stay close to home if possible..Schools like Bama & Oregon will always cherry pick some of that talent, cause there's only so many kids both schools can take, and Bama & Oregon both have the swag & history of producing NFL talent for those that attend either schools....
I don't know how legit Muschamp is but I think his teams have been remarkably close to Alabama for his first two years. This year they fell off compared to Saban's third year. But if he can maintain this level of defense, which I think he can, and ever get a QB and some WR's in there I think Florida could be a dangerous team. I mean they almost won their division last year with almost no threat of a passing game. It took massive work from Driskel last year to allow UGA to beat UF.
However, I'm not totally sold that Muschamp is the man that is going to be able to maintain success on a dynasty level, but I was surprised by how well his second season went.
However, I'm not totally sold that Muschamp is the man that is going to be able to maintain success on a dynasty level, but I was surprised by how well his second season went.
I din't know that..That's a scary thought of "Johnny Football" running your offense, don't get me wrong, Mariota(Did I spell that right..LOL) is really good as well, but, "Johnny Football" is on another level..I think he is anyways..I don't wanna even think about the kinda numbers he would put up in Oregon's offense, The Aggies have a powerful offense, it too is on another level, as compared to other HUNH offenses..JMO
I get what you are saying, and I agree that he can make a TAMU a very good team. He may even be able to win a championship, but Manziel is wayyy more than a quality QB, IMO. I just think without Manziel, their offense would be good, but not in the top 3 in the country. Manziel does some things that I've never seen any QB do, and he does things that are pretty much impossible to defend. As good as QB's like Tebow, sCam, or Vince Young were, if you stop them from running, you could beat them. Manziel is so allusive that if you dedicate enough guys to stop him running, he will destroy you throwing the ball in a way that none of the others could. I've never seen a guy be able to extend plays as long as he can and throw the ball as well as does running, off balance, and under pressure. He is truly special, IMO.
I agree 100% with ya..I actually think The Aggies will be better offensively after Manziel leaves A&M, cause I think Sumlin's next QB will be a better passer than Manziel, and with a better passer, Sumlin's offense will be even better than it is now..Thy have a Pro Style QB committed right now Kyle Allen, and he's a gun slinger, one of the top Pro Style QB's in this years class..As good as The Aggies are now..
I honestly think they will be even better with him slinging the 'Tater around in their offense..Not relying on one Player like they are now, will open up that offense, and it will give all the WR playmakers a better chance to show what they can do & they have some playmakers on offense like we do at the WR position..They're just scratching the surface on offense with "Johnny Football" running the offense..That's JMO..
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He was committed to Oregon first but chose to go to aTm. Him running the offense would be insane. But we're happy with Mariota. He doesn't come with all the baggage of off the field antics, is quiet, lets his play do the talking. And hopefully we'll have him for one more year, whereas Manziel will likely be off to the NFL next year because he's so good and always in the headlines. We like that Mariota stays out of the headlines and flies under the radar for the most part.
I'll preface by saying that I don't like Manziel, no how, no way. There's no denying though, that he's a remarkable quarterback. He's currently leading the SEC in passing yardage and is second to Mettenberger in pass efficiency. He's also 11th in the SEC in rushing yardage. Hard to imagine Sumlin snagging a much better passer. Even if he is a better passer, he will almost certainly bring less to the table than JM does. If he's a straight drop back passer defenses won't have to devote nearly as much attention to him as they do to JM. Part of what makes JM so effective is his ability to turn a 6 second play into a 16 second play. Defensive lineman can't catch him and if they do they usually can't tackle him. It's also asking a lot from a defensive back to keep coverage for that long.
Sumlin's offense may keep chugging merrily along after Manziel is gone, but I doubt they'll give anybody fits the way they do now.
I agree 100% with ya..While "Johnn Football" may be a suppoed "once in a generation" type player, his baggage off the field, is a big downside to him & I hate the gestures he makes after making a big play, it makes him look downright thuggish..I would take Mariota all day long over Manziel, Mariota is on & off the football field a really really good player & he represents himself a lot lot better..I'd rather have Mariota representing my school as well..
Manziel is a great weapon in an offense that has a limited number of true playmakers. The only problem is that his holding onto the ball, scrambling around and waiting for something to open up and then taking off on these wild runs is eventually going to result in him getting knocked out. He seems to have some magic quality that keeps him from taking solid hits and being rolled up in a gang tackle, but it's just luck. His body takes up a given amount of space on the football field just like anyone else and one day he's going to zig when he should have zagged and a linebacker is going to paste him. Unless Sumlin's got Matt Football or Kenny Football or some other variant that can take over and give his receivers the same amount of time to get separation from coverage, their offense is going to fizzle. Mike Evans is a mismatch for most defenses, but I don't see anyone else on that offense that strikes fear into defenses.
When the Johnny Football experience ends, Sumlin needs to have a good group of skill players and a QB that can distribute the ball to them effectively without risking the entire system by exposing himself to all the flak. Their offense right now is so QB-centric that they would be in dire straits if Manziel went down. I can't picture their defense holding up because they are bad enough now and if they couldn't sustain drives to give the D some rest, that defense would certainly be suffering.
When the Johnny Football experience ends, Sumlin needs to have a good group of skill players and a QB that can distribute the ball to them effectively without risking the entire system by exposing himself to all the flak. Their offense right now is so QB-centric that they would be in dire straits if Manziel went down. I can't picture their defense holding up because they are bad enough now and if they couldn't sustain drives to give the D some rest, that defense would certainly be suffering.
I agree & will say that even a lot of our fans understand just how rare & special this program is.
I believe that all the things Coach Moore did while AD will cement Alabama to the top for a long time even if Coach Saban chose to go to the lake.
Something tells me if he does he'll still have a lot of say so at Bama.
And that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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At the present time, no other team in the nation comes close to what the Tide has accomplished. Hence all these other teams' dreams of becoming a dynasty are just that - dreams.
Otoh, once college football has moved past the BCS and into "committee", you never can tell. Everyone on the "committee" will have ties to the NZAA and wins/losses will be determined by who are the largest donors. What is accomplished on the field, assuming that games continue to be played, will not even be considered. In the end, the world of college football as we know it will cease to exist.
Otoh, once college football has moved past the BCS and into "committee", you never can tell. Everyone on the "committee" will have ties to the NZAA and wins/losses will be determined by who are the largest donors. What is accomplished on the field, assuming that games continue to be played, will not even be considered. In the end, the world of college football as we know it will cease to exist.
I thought it was interesting to listen to Herbie speak of how Bama matched up with teams with their multiple pro sets and defense. It's one thing to have great talent, but matching up with personnel and attack schemes is entirely something else. I would think that has a lot to do with longevity in winning championships. Many teams are out there trying to out scheme you with hurry up, spread em, out score you, techniques. Don't really see the sustained success in that. The other obstacle is this 4 game playoff thing. Gotta believe even more attrition. You can forget teams who have won a championship because they had that one great, special moment in time. Cause here comes round two. Stands to reason that the winner will have to play to their ultimate potential and sustain it against multiple schemes and tremendous talent and different environments completely. That won't make winning multiple titles any easier.
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