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Link: Officials Call A Phantom Safety In Ohio-Buffalo Game (Video)

TideMan09

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WOW..That's bout as bad as it gets in bad officiating & looks downright shady..I dunno..I don't wanna accuse a ref of messing with the point spread one way or another, cause I don't know what the point spread was for this game, but, why would a ref do this..That's the only conclusion I can come up wit & it's sickening to watch this happen in a game we all love so much..That wasn't close to being a safety at all..What do y'all think..Was this a shady call by the refs or an honest mistake..You be the judge..

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Hard to say with the end of the play cut off...
But assuming the description of the play is accurate, I would agree that the call was blown.
 
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cbi1972 said:
Hard to say with the end of the play cut off...
But assuming the description of the play is accurate, I would agree that the call was blown.
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Well, they're saying it was called intentionally grounding. We clearly see where he was when he threw the ball, and the end zone is clearly a different color. If you're any other ref, I'm not sure how you let the stand..

There is no doubt, there is no ambiguity, you can not have a safety without being in the end zone. He wasn't even close. I would like to see the full Youtube video or something though.
 
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I haven't checked the link yet, but can you be called for a safety without being in the end-zone if you commit Intentional grounding to prevent a safety? Call aside, is this the refs reason for calling it?

If so, it sure looks that way to me!
 
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TiderGreg said:
I haven't checked the link yet, but can you be called for a safety without being in the end-zone if you commit Intentional grounding to prevent a safety? Call aside, is this the refs reason for calling it?

If so, it sure looks that way to me!
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Intentional grounding is always spot of the foul. Even a safety called on holding requires the ball carrier to be in the end zone. If any one knows of a rule that allows a safety without being in an end zone, that's news to me. That's even the basis for that whole absurd fumble through the end zone thing, the end zone is a magical place, heh... That's like saying you can score a touchdown without being in the end zone, it's against the basic rules of football. You can't be where you're not.

I'm a little disconcerted that there seems to be some confusion on the matter. This isn't horseshoes. You have can't be near the sideline, near the goalline, you actually have to be there.
 
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KrAzY3 said:
Intentional grounding is always spot of the foul. Even a safety called on holding requires the ball carrier to be in the end zone.
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That is what I wanted to know, so the QB actually did the correct thing, to take grounding over a safety. If that's the rule, how can a refs have such a blunder. This is not a split second bad call but miscalculating field position by 10 yards? That's like spotting the ball 5 to 10 yards ahead of where a catch was made, maybe not as bad but close.
 
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So how was that not overturned by either replay or other officials on the field?
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That's what I don't understand either, it was an obvious bad call, why didn't the refs on the field just huddle up & talked it out, and corrected the call on the field, by simply picking the flag up & say there was no penalty..Should have been a pretty easy fix..
 
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I don't think intentional grounding is reviewable. I don't know if where it took place would be reviewable, though.
 
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BradtheImpaler said:
Aren't all scoring plays reviewable?

They are. Referees routinely review safeties to make sure that the ball carrier and ball is actually in the end-zone.
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You're right. Now that I think about it, wasn't our safety against OM reviewed to see if the QB got out of the end zone?
 
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TideMan09 said:
That's what I don't understand either, it was an obvious bad call, why didn't the refs on the field just huddle up & talked it out, and corrected the call on the field, by simply picking the flag up & say there was no penalty..Should have been a pretty easy fix..
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That's the part that annoys me about how refs act sometimes. The goal is to get the call right, and if that requires another ref interrogating someone on why they made a call, so be it. A few simple questions should have cleared that whole thing up, and they could have waved it off. Everyone makes mistakes, but the key is if you recognize the mistake or not. If think this should go double for those major non-reviewable penalties (like the automatic ejection and 15 yard penalty, or a safety on a penalty). Huddle together, make sure you're all on the same page, and don't potentially ruin the game because you made a mistake.
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You're right. Now that I think about it, wasn't our safety against OM reviewed to see if the QB got out of the end zone?
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There is a weird technicality in play here. The safety was the result of a penalty and as I understand it (and the refs that game as well), a penalty can't be reviewed. A safety is the only situation in which you can score on a penalty, so it's a really weird situation.
 
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I just don't understand how refs continue to blow calls even with replay available. I'm also getting tired of the "that's not reviewable" excuse. Everything should be reviewable if you truly want to get the calls right. Yes, I think penalties should be reviewable. I'm not saying every single call should be reviewed but, it is pretty obvious when they make a big mistake and the replay booth should be able to call down and tell them what they saw.
 
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KrAzY3 said:
That's the part that annoys me about how refs act sometimes. The goal is to get the call right, and if that requires another ref interrogating someone on why they made a call, so be it. A few simple questions should have cleared that whole thing up, and they could have waved it off. Everyone makes mistakes, but the key is if you recognize the mistake or not. If think this should go double for those major non-reviewable penalties (like the automatic ejection and 15 yard penalty, or a safety on a penalty). Huddle together, make sure you're all on the same page, and don't potentially ruin the game because you made a mistake.
There is a weird technicality in play here. The safety was the result of a penalty and as I understand it (and the refs that game as well), a penalty can't be reviewed. A safety is the only situation in which you can score on a penalty, so it's a really weird situation.
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Penalties can't be reviewed, but they use instant replay to determine where the ball should be spotted in the case of intentional grounding.
 
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