If I may add something. Not to try and take away from the point the OP was making, but I think that the major difference between us and the barner fan base is that we actually get embarrassed by the behavior of our lunatic fringe. The same can not be said for the auburn fan base, IMO. I had one at work try and talk some kind of crap about our loss to Oklahoma in basketball. I asked why they were bringing up basketball when the iron bowl was in two weeks and would decide the SEC West. The idiot laughed and said "I bring up baseketball (she actually calls it "baseketball") because when it comes to the rivalry, all sports matter!" I then asked if she was aware that their "baseketball" team lost at home to Northwestern State. She apparently did not know that, but continued on with her trash talk regardless. Said something like "well, one of our best players was not able to play, so we get a pass for that fluke of a loss, but never mind that, that's irrelevant right now". "You know good and well that the iron bowl will not be close, auburn will be favored, and we will sack yo boy 11 times again just like we did lil ole Brokie Croyle years ago!" Called him "brokie". And then she closed it by saying that they once reeled off 6 in a row over Saban. I tried to explain that that was (mostly) Mike Shula. Her reply was "NO NO, yo guy in charge now caught number 6 of that 6 in a row, remember?". "So that makes the messiah a part of that streak, whether you wanna admit it or not". She then laughed hysterically, started singing some kind of song about smoking pot, all the while, her fellow aubies were dancing around with her and cheering her on. Had that been an Alabama dancing around, singing such a ridiculous song, I would have been embarrassed beyond belief.