SEC Clarifies Rule on AU Touchdown Pass
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There was 2 OL and Prosch blocking and running 4-5 yards downfield at the time of the pass. Also, A'Shawn was taken down WWE style. Refs blew this play badly but we had our chances earlier.
I am not sure - it has been 3 yards for as long as I have been aware of the rule, but I do not know when I learned it. Certainly years ago.
Doesn't matter. Auburn was the better team Saturday.
Can't find a screenshot, but Deadspin has a high quality video - won't link it due to language, but here's a lower quality animated gif.
What it shows is that the fullback was well beyond the neutral zone (approx 5yds?). Furthest downfield lineman (Left Guard #63) was right at 3, maybe just slightly beyond. If the rule is as stated, play was either legal or so close that I can't argue with a no-call.
Again though - irrelevant, no excuses. CNS was absolutely correct - badly blown coverage in both DBs biting on the run. We got beat.
Can't find a screenshot, but Deadspin has a high quality video - won't link it due to language, but here's a lower quality animated gif.
What it shows is that the fullback was well beyond the neutral zone (approx 5yds?). Furthest downfield lineman (Left Guard #63) was right at 3, maybe just slightly beyond. If the rule is as stated, play was either legal or so close that I can't argue with a no-call.
Again though - irrelevant, no excuses. CNS was absolutely correct - badly blown coverage in both DBs biting on the run. We got beat.
I've run and re-run that play but I can't tell exactly how far down field they are #63 was close to being over 3 yards if not slightly over. Marshall also is close to being over the LOS and it appears as if his right foot is over when he releases the ball. However, there is blatant holding by #73, their left tackle, on our #86 Robinson. In fact he basically tackles Robinson.
I've looked at the procedure call that took Foster's only good FG off the board and I don't see any movement by Arie or anyone else on our side and no movement by AU that might indicate motion on our part. The holding call on OJ Howard looks awfully suspect to name another critical call against us.
I know whining about officiating is pooh, poohed by the team that benefits most of the time and people say it does no good to complain but SEC officials are arguably the worst in the country. If no one complains the fans and players of all SEC teams will only continue to get bad officiating. I think it's high time the SEC took action to make sure we get the best officiating as humanly possible. If that means throwing flags and picking them up after review or more plays reviewed, so be it, but something needs to be done.
They tried to run the same play in the 1st half where Marshall clearly wanted to throw but Jones had Coats covered and the linebackers were able to pull down Marshall for a loss. This play however the linebackers were well blocked and Marshall didn't tip his hand too soon that he wanted to throw. Jones and Clinton-Dix both had to react quickly and unfortunately made the wrong choice by both leaving Coats to pursue Marshall. I chalk this up to a perfectly executed play by Auburn.
The reason i am thinking 09 or 10 is I have rule book with references to 09 and 10 "edits" and the part about the 3 yards is in highlighted - I may be reading too much in to that. i do know that when I was in high school it was neutral zone, but that was in the 70's.
Yes. It was the 1980s for me, but that was always the rule, and I think it still is in the NFL.
I rewatchded on my DVR and the fullback was blocking at 4.5 to 5 yards downfield. The two OL were 3.5 to 4 yards downfield and were not making blocks to get there. It would have been nice to have the play called back like Bama's made field goal but don't think of this as being the reason Bama lost...
Marshall was nowhere close to being over the line of scrimmage, totally legal pass. AU OL position was all fine as well.
What was not fine is 2 Bama defenders losing their coverage responsibilities or missing 3 FGs before this play, just one of which would have won the game, or failing on 4th and 1 after stopping AU on their ill advised 4th down try.
But hey, it happens, gotta remember these are a bunch of 18-22 year old kids playing a game. Bama has won 3 of 4 NCs, ton of games, SEC titles, it's not like we would never lose ever again.
Auburn easily could have lost to A&M (likely would have without Manziel injury), SHOULD have lost to UGA, and SHOULD have been down to Bama by 10 or 13 before that last TD.
But that is why they play the games and why we love it.
12-1 with a BCS bowl win is great, even spectacular when you consider it a disappointment.
Harvey Updyke starter kit fans with mean thoughts, words and threats for the Cade Foster need to get a life.
What was not fine is 2 Bama defenders losing their coverage responsibilities or missing 3 FGs before this play, just one of which would have won the game, or failing on 4th and 1 after stopping AU on their ill advised 4th down try.
But hey, it happens, gotta remember these are a bunch of 18-22 year old kids playing a game. Bama has won 3 of 4 NCs, ton of games, SEC titles, it's not like we would never lose ever again.
Auburn easily could have lost to A&M (likely would have without Manziel injury), SHOULD have lost to UGA, and SHOULD have been down to Bama by 10 or 13 before that last TD.
But that is why they play the games and why we love it.
12-1 with a BCS bowl win is great, even spectacular when you consider it a disappointment.
Harvey Updyke starter kit fans with mean thoughts, words and threats for the Cade Foster need to get a life.
This loss will make Saban even more like a wild vulture on the recruiting trail. Hope he can get about 3 more cornerbacks. We need them bad. Lost the opelika kid, the brunswick one is waffling. Let's get Humphrey, Tabor, and the CB out of Texas, along with the TE Luatua and maybe Fournette.
but he was engaged in a block before the pass was thrown. and #63 was about 3 1/2 yards downfield by the time the pass was thrown (but that was fluid and sort of bang-bang). thing is, the fullback and the o linemen were blocking (or setting up to) for the run at that point.
not that any of this matters
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Ok, i'm as mad as anybody about some of the calls. The procedure call on Arie when it looked like he really only passed gas, the holding call on OJ that was 15 yds from the play, and all of that. But, as Dana White says "never leave it in the hands of the judges" guess what people? we left it in the hands of the judges. shouldn't have, but it was. I can show you at least 16 points that Bama left on the field. in the end, if Amari had not of dropped that pass or if Cade would have made all three attempts we would be talking about a pretty good win. oh well, accept it, learn from it, don't repeat it next year.
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