I don't know any active refs, but I've known a couple of them in the past, and, believe me, they wouldn't have had what it takes to keep up with these offenses...
Your Opinions about the HUNH?
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It's my opinion that to combat the HUNH, the defense should hit the quarterback every single play. Because he pretends to have the ball, it is permitted within the rules as he becomes either a decoy or a potential blocker. So I say blow him up on every snap. This would go a ways towards dissuading teams from employing it.
Watch Oregon games when they are playing at home. Never seen refs work so quickly.
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He hit em hard, often, and legally every play. Help him up and say, "See you soon." Walk calmly away.
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also, if you can ever stomach watching a pac-12 game, pay attention to how much the o line moves after they are "set".
This, and other bending or flat out breaking of the rules of the game are what troubles me about this offense, and especially the Barn's version of it. Forget the gimmicky stuff (that double huddle break is so middle school, it's embarrassing, and often results in illegal formations); others have mentioned the officiating issues and I'll add wide receivers holding on the perimeters constantly and ineligible receivers downfield. If you call this on pro-set teams, you have to be vigilant on HUNH teams as well.
I like the post that encouraged tape study for officials, so it isn't subject to game speed, and I do hope coaches like Saban and Beilema are making a case of this.
And yeah, part of it is sour grapes. I won't deny it.
Here is Gus's Offense in a nutshell: Word Docs.
Delaware Winged - T Triple Option (Word Doc.)
Delaware Winged - T Speed Package (Word Doc.)
Whole Playbook (PDF)
Delaware Winged - T Triple Option (Word Doc.)
Delaware Winged - T Speed Package (Word Doc.)
Whole Playbook (PDF)
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I don't mind a game where teams score - but of course 31-28 is a far cry from 56-49. What I find really, really irritating is the manipulation of the rules.
Every rule change that has happened due to balance play btw offense and defense, eliminate an wanted competitive advantage, or improve player safety. Someone had to raise the issue for it to result in change. I don't perceive this discussion as sour grapes at all.
Gus's opinion of building an offense around "its not a penalty unless its called" undermines the fundamentals of the game. And that should be protected above all.
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Gus's opinion of building an offense around "its not a penalty unless its called" undermines the fundamentals of the game. And that should be protected above all.
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Although impressive so far, I still call Gus's simple high school offense the "All Your Eggs In One Basket" offense. If something happens to Tre Mason, they'll struggle to get 150 yards of total offense in a game against a good defense.
But my HS (Mountain Brook) ran this same offense when I played back in the early 80's. We used it because we didn't have quite the athletes as the other teams back then. Same reason Gus is using it now. You use as much smoke and mirrors as you can to get that extra half of a second to get to the second level of a defense since that's your only hope to compete. Auburn is using it very well.
I guess my fundamental problem, in a nutshell, is that you're effectively trying to majorly limit or eliminate major portions of the game: namely player substitution and defensive playcalling. How would people feel if the same were somehow accomplished on the offensive side of the ball? What if you couldn't change your offensive personnel or could only make limited adjustments on offense to match the defense? What if, as a result, nearly every game were a low-scoring affair? My guess is that people wouldn't be quite so supportive and would be calling for a major rule change. Why? Because people are shallow. It's the same reason people called the regular season game against LSU two years ago a snore fest and why they like watching West Coast QB play. For some reason, people just like gimmicky, fast-paced, and high-scoring offenses.
Me? I like a chess match between two teams and two coaches. To my mind, the HUNH is like playing chess, but taking away half your opponent's pieces. Sure, in this case it's legal, but I just question whether it's truly good for the game.
Like I said though, I doubt it's going away anytime soon, so you either adapt to it, or you lose. It is what it is.
Me? I like a chess match between two teams and two coaches. To my mind, the HUNH is like playing chess, but taking away half your opponent's pieces. Sure, in this case it's legal, but I just question whether it's truly good for the game.
Like I said though, I doubt it's going away anytime soon, so you either adapt to it, or you lose. It is what it is.
Interesting that au has a commitment from Rivals #8 rated 4 star pro style QB in the 2014 class. Seems strange that type QB would be recruited for Malzahn's offense.
Jeremy Johnson isn't nearly the runner Nick Marshall is. He's more of a passer. He can run if he needs to, but he's more of a passer.
The Big 12 experimented with an extra on field official in conference games because of their offenses. I'm guessing the NCAA will look at that and decide if it will become permanent for all games.
Even my wife commented on how boring the SEC championship game was. The total lack of defense made for a boring game of what I considered poor football play.
I think it is fine as far as gimmicks go but I do think they have to stop facilitating the snap and letting the game go faster than the refs can monitor legal play. There seems to be a lot of stuff not getting called in the name of getting the ball set quickly and getting out of the way.
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