Luke Del Rio is gone - Blake Sims / QB discussion
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Re: It appears Luke Del Rio is leaving
I hate to hear this. I think he had a real shot at starting QB this coming season. Well what is done is done good luck to him.
I hate to hear this. I think he had a real shot at starting QB this coming season. Well what is done is done good luck to him.
Re: It appears Luke Del Rio is leaving
All I know is LDR is a super classy kid who did everything asked of him. I give him props for that and wish him nothing but the best....unless his paths ever put him on the field opposite of Bama
. But from what I'm hearing that is HIGHLY unlikely.
All I know is LDR is a super classy kid who did everything asked of him. I give him props for that and wish him nothing but the best....unless his paths ever put him on the field opposite of Bama
. But from what I'm hearing that is HIGHLY unlikely.
Re: It appears Luke Del Rio is leaving
As bad as 2012 was for USC, Kiffin's offense averaged 36 PPG in the games Matt Barkley played, including a 62-51 loss to Oregon, a 39-36 loss to Arizona, and 38-28 loss to UCLA. Barkely got hurt went out of the Notre Dame game and didn't play in the bowl game and those were the 2 lowest point output games of the year (13 points vs ND, and 7 points vs GT)
USC's offense was actually pretty good in 2012 until Barkley went down, but their offense was absolutely horrible. A lot of Barkley's INT's came while they were having to throw the ball to stay in the game because the defense sucked, which is typical when you can't run a balanced offense.
Again, it's none of my concern how you feel about Kiffin, but his offenses have generally been very good.
I don't care if you don't like Kiffin, but you wrong about his offenses and QB play while he was at USC. He was is own OC and playcaller from 2010 - until he was fired.
You're basically saying that even though Kiffin was Barkley's coach in 2010 and 2011 when Barkley had his best years, it is Kiffin's fault he had a disappointing senior year? I'm not sure I follow that logic.
As bad as 2012 was for USC, Kiffin's offense averaged 36 PPG in the games Matt Barkley played, including a 62-51 loss to Oregon, a 39-36 loss to Arizona, and 38-28 loss to UCLA. Barkely got hurt went out of the Notre Dame game and didn't play in the bowl game and those were the 2 lowest point output games of the year (13 points vs ND, and 7 points vs GT)
USC's offense was actually pretty good in 2012 until Barkley went down, but their offense was absolutely horrible. A lot of Barkley's INT's came while they were having to throw the ball to stay in the game because the defense sucked, which is typical when you can't run a balanced offense.
Again, it's none of my concern how you feel about Kiffin, but his offenses have generally been very good.
Re: It appears Luke Del Rio is leaving
The competition at QB is going to be tough this spring. Who knows if we will have a starter named? LDR must think he has a better shot at meaningful playing time somewhere else instead of Bama. I wish him well.
The competition at QB is going to be tough this spring. Who knows if we will have a starter named? LDR must think he has a better shot at meaningful playing time somewhere else instead of Bama. I wish him well.
Re: It appears Luke Del Rio is leaving
1.Run said the Rumor was out before the Kiffen hiring.
2.Riley was already in place before DR came here
3.I read some where AJ said he was impressed with DR
4.Im like Buzz something just ain't Right.
5. Does speed play in to this or athletism Yall kow better than me
6.Are we going to Run the offense we think we are? Kiffens been out since sept.Has he been working on a diffrent style of offense?Coach says he is impressed with him!
7. I know this is a few yrs away but I'm looking forward to Ricky Towns.
1.Run said the Rumor was out before the Kiffen hiring.
2.Riley was already in place before DR came here
3.I read some where AJ said he was impressed with DR
4.Im like Buzz something just ain't Right.
5. Does speed play in to this or athletism Yall kow better than me
6.Are we going to Run the offense we think we are? Kiffens been out since sept.Has he been working on a diffrent style of offense?Coach says he is impressed with him!
7. I know this is a few yrs away but I'm looking forward to Ricky Towns.
Re: It appears Luke Del Rio is leaving
Yeah. Leinart was turrible.....Crompton was a total zero before LK (check his stats please) and ended being a 4th round (?) draft pick. Yeah, he can't coach qb's. His offenses couldn't score and his receivers couldn't catch, either. Good gawd....
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I honestly don't believe it would sink in for some.
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Just because the QB's struggled when he was HC doesn't mean he sucks as an OC. Some head coaches have to put their time in elsewhere and they lack. Our DB's looked rough this year, but does that mean Coach Saban sucks as a DB Coach? I'd imagine DB's played BETTER when he was a full time DB coach than when he was the head coach. That doesn't mean he sucks it means he doesn't have the time to put in the work as a DB Coach now compared to him having to put his time in all over the field now that he's in charge. Some can handle that, some can't.
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I guess if Muschamp gets fired from Florida, people will decide he's a terrible defensive coordinator.
I don't get how some people can't tell the coordinator positions apart from the head coach position. Furthermore, since there seems to be some sort of a wikibattle going on (with Kiffin's page being edited to name Sarkisian as co-coordinator, even though it didn't say that before), from what I gathered and according to Sarkisian's own wikipedia page, he was promoted to offensive coordinator after Kiffin left. He might have shared some duties, but a lot of people seemed to be under the impression that Kiffin was the offensive coordinator, and Sarkisian was the assistant head coach and quarterbacks coach.
It seems rather revisionist (as the wikipedia edits attest to), to try and belittle Kiffin's work as offensive coordinator at USC.
I guess if Muschamp gets fired from Florida, people will decide he's a terrible defensive coordinator.
I don't get how some people can't tell the coordinator positions apart from the head coach position. Furthermore, since there seems to be some sort of a wikibattle going on (with Kiffin's page being edited to name Sarkisian as co-coordinator, even though it didn't say that before), from what I gathered and according to Sarkisian's own wikipedia page, he was promoted to offensive coordinator after Kiffin left. He might have shared some duties, but a lot of people seemed to be under the impression that Kiffin was the offensive coordinator, and Sarkisian was the assistant head coach and quarterbacks coach.
It seems rather revisionist (as the wikipedia edits attest to), to try and belittle Kiffin's work as offensive coordinator at USC.
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I will say something about Kiffin's final season at USC. I think you have to point the finger at him for letting it all fall apart. Which is why I'm glad he's just the OC and not the head coach. But don't think the success that came after he left had any meaning. I've seen this many times, when a coach gets fired the interim coach circles the wagons with the players, gives them this us against the world speech or pick you speech from an Adam Sandler movie and everybody goes out loose and taking chances because there is nothing to lose. Nobody's afraid of mistakes because nothing you do that season means anything, heck throw a bomb every 3rd play. When a team isn't worried about losing they can be the last team you want to play. but that situation doesn't last. The moment passes and next season the real coach can't play that loose and dangerous. Heck I wish Dubose had stepped down after that 21-0 loss to Southern Miss, may be we could have gotten a win or two down the stretch.
I will say something about Kiffin's final season at USC. I think you have to point the finger at him for letting it all fall apart. Which is why I'm glad he's just the OC and not the head coach. But don't think the success that came after he left had any meaning. I've seen this many times, when a coach gets fired the interim coach circles the wagons with the players, gives them this us against the world speech or pick you speech from an Adam Sandler movie and everybody goes out loose and taking chances because there is nothing to lose. Nobody's afraid of mistakes because nothing you do that season means anything, heck throw a bomb every 3rd play. When a team isn't worried about losing they can be the last team you want to play. but that situation doesn't last. The moment passes and next season the real coach can't play that loose and dangerous. Heck I wish Dubose had stepped down after that 21-0 loss to Southern Miss, may be we could have gotten a win or two down the stretch.
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Man, I wish Nick had consulted with you before making this hire. I guess we're screwed.
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1. Why are we talking about Coker when we don't know anything about that. he may/may not transfer. Pointless to bring it up until sometime in Spring.
2. I'm confident in our quarterbacks that we have and I"m sure one will step up and get the job done.
3. I wish Del Rio the best whereever he goes. I wish he would stay but nothing we can do about it.
4. Expect one more quarterback to transfer after spring practice.
5. We are not screwed.
6. have faith in your team.
1. Why are we talking about Coker when we don't know anything about that. he may/may not transfer. Pointless to bring it up until sometime in Spring.
2. I'm confident in our quarterbacks that we have and I"m sure one will step up and get the job done.
3. I wish Del Rio the best whereever he goes. I wish he would stay but nothing we can do about it.
4. Expect one more quarterback to transfer after spring practice.
5. We are not screwed.
6. have faith in your team.
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How can the assumption be made Kiffin will leave (or get fired) after 1-2 years and the man hasn't even coached a game. Geez!
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We won a national championship with Jay Barker as our starting QB in a year, when frankly, he wasn't very good. He later became quite good, but the team carried him while he learned in '92. Next year will be interesting -- maybe good; maybe not so much. However, with all the talent we're bringing in, if we take a dip, it won't be a long one....
Roll Tide!!!
We won a national championship with Jay Barker as our starting QB in a year, when frankly, he wasn't very good. He later became quite good, but the team carried him while he learned in '92. Next year will be interesting -- maybe good; maybe not so much. However, with all the talent we're bringing in, if we take a dip, it won't be a long one....
Roll Tide!!!
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The QB battle is going to be fun to watch the spring & fall that's for sure, like many Bama Fans, I will be pulling for Sims, but, I'm not sold on him being the right fit in our Pro Style Offense..That's not a knock against him, cause he's prolly the best pure athlete on the team(behind Henry), I'm just not sold on him throwing the ball..
If Sims wins the job, I imagine we're going to see a lot of the "Wildcat" formation with Sims running the offense..If that's the case, I'll be a happy camper, cause The "Wilcat" formation has mighty effective for us, when we ran out it, and Sims would be deadly running out of it should we go that route..Flame Away..That's just my gods honest truth about the situation(especially if Sims wins the starting QB job)..
The QB battle is going to be fun to watch the spring & fall that's for sure, like many Bama Fans, I will be pulling for Sims, but, I'm not sold on him being the right fit in our Pro Style Offense..That's not a knock against him, cause he's prolly the best pure athlete on the team(behind Henry), I'm just not sold on him throwing the ball..
If Sims wins the job, I imagine we're going to see a lot of the "Wildcat" formation with Sims running the offense..If that's the case, I'll be a happy camper, cause The "Wilcat" formation has mighty effective for us, when we ran out it, and Sims would be deadly running out of it should we go that route..Flame Away..That's just my gods honest truth about the situation(especially if Sims wins the starting QB job)..
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True. But all first-year starters on the championship teams were blessed to have three of the best defenses in Alabama history. Based on what we've seen to date, does anyone believe the trend will continue next year?
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True. But all first-year starters on the championship teams were blessed to have three of the best defenses in Alabama history. Based on what we've seen to date, does anyone believe the trend will continue next year?
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Bingo. I've told anyone who would listen, for month's, that Blake Sims is the only QB Coach Saban will trust enough to start next year, especially early in the season. Next year we're going to need a QB who's more of a game manager and doesn't make mistakes. I can't see Coach Saban giving that responsibility to a redshirt freshman.
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