Just the Arabian states? Not the Iranians or Turks? Not the Russians or Chinese? Not the US? Why the selective outrage. There's enough bloody hands to go around.No I blame the Arabian states who are providing money and arms.
Just the Arabian states? Not the Iranians or Turks? Not the Russians or Chinese? Not the US? Why the selective outrage. There's enough bloody hands to go around.No I blame the Arabian states who are providing money and arms.
President Reagan likes this post.Unfortunately sometimes foreign policy choices result in choosing the less worst side.
Well, yeah, when your foreign policy entails sticking your nose into everyone's business, that will definitely happen.Unfortunately sometimes foreign policy choices result in choosing the less worst side.
Not outraged at all. Are you asking BIB the same question?Just the Arabian states? Not the Iranians or Turks? Not the Russians or Chinese? Not the US? Why the selective outrage. There's enough bloody hands to go around.
Sergeant Major Dan Pitzer once told me, "When you sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas." Lots of dogs in that neck of the woods.True, but most often the best choice is not getting involved when the bad guys fight.
That's why we call Islam the "religion of pieces".This is the religion of peace guys; it's called hugging, not strangling.
Dude, you're such a neocon.I think we can lay the ongoing Syrian disaster pretty squarely at his feet, yes.
Well, yeah, when your foreign policy entails sticking your nose into everyone's business, that will definitely happen.
You can say that all you want to rationalize our involvement, but our nosing into other people's business has resulted in a lot of unnecessary deaths and spending in the last 70 years, not to mention is almost solely responsible for our current problems with terrorism.We are a global superpower in a globalized world. There's no such thing as "someone else's business" anymore.
This isn't 1914.
Can't compare today to Vietnam or Korea.You can say that all you want to rationalize our involvement, but our nosing into other people's business has resulted in a lot of unnecessary deaths and spending in the last 70 years, not to mention is almost solely responsible for our current problems with terrorism.
It's not our job to be the world police, no matter how much you like the idea of projecting our will onto others.
But you can compare the reality that our involvement will do nothing to improve the situation. It's simply not our business.Can't compare today to Vietnam or Korea.
Yah, they 'hate us for our freedom', isn't that it?And nice of you to blame America for terrorism. Self-loathing and factual innacuracy - a delightful combo!
Brilliant how you can channel Pat Buchanan and Noam Chomsky at the same time. Could you please recount for us how we have managed to put the Muslim world on the short of the stick? Be reminded about the amount of money we've dumped in the Middle east for almost fifty years.But you can compare the reality that our involvement will do nothing to improve the situation. It's simply not our business.
Yah, they 'hate us for our freedom', isn't that it?
I don't 'blame America', but I'm not nationalistic enough to act as if our constant screwing around in other peoples' back yards isn't a major cause of the hatred we deal with now.
I suspect you'd feel differently if we were constantly on the short end of the stick, but maybe not. You certainly seem to be unwilling or unable to get past the idea that TPTB in DC are no better or wiser than those in other countries.
I vote for our president by choosing the less worst side.Unfortunately sometimes foreign policy choices result in choosing the less worst side.
LOL, nothing I will say will change your mind - it doesn't matter that our history in the ME is riddled with installing and removing leadership according to what we think benefits us. It doesn't matter that we've had bases in their countries for decades. It doesn't matter that our policy has revolved around ensuring that we did what we thought what was best for our oil supply...Brilliant how you can channel Pat Buchanan and Noam Chomsky at the same time. Could you please recount for us how we have managed to put the Muslim world on the short of the stick? Be reminded about the amount of money we've dumped in the Middle east for almost fifty years.
LOL, nothing I will say will change your mind - it doesn't matter that our history in the ME is riddled with installing and removing leadership according to what we think benefits us. It doesn't matter that we've had bases in their countries for decades. It doesn't matter that our policy has revolved around ensuring that we did what we thought what was best for our oil supply...
None of that matters, because you like to believe that we're all about doing good and righteous things.
Not that it will matter to you, but think about the countries most commonly and most heinously hit by terrorist attacks - all of them have a history of crapping all over these countries for their own benefit. Other first world countries who tend to mind their own business don't seem to have this problem. I guess they're just not as free as we are.
If nothing else, I'd think we could all agree that our foreign policy, specifically in the ME, has been atrocious for decades, and that we should therefore try a different approach. But I guess even that's too much for some to agree with.
I'm not "genuinely ignorant" at all - I just think you're wrong and you've done a terrible job of asserting yourself.LOL, I'm done going back and forth with you. I find it hard to believe you're genuinely ignorant of the US's work in the ME and Asia, but I'll throw something down here for you. Just don't expect me to come back - it's difficult talking to someone who is so willfully ignoring historical fact.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état
http://www.midafternoonmap.com/2013/10/americas-allies-and-enemies-in-middle.html