Nice article on Kiffin's offense...

TideMan09 said:

That was a fair article..We may not have better talent, but, I do think it's damn near equal..Coach Saban's conservative style offense will never put up huge numbers, put our offensive players in their offensive style of play, and they will put up the same yards & points as the USC players did on those teams..I will say their QB's were better than ours & it would be no contest..At the other positions we are just as talented or damn near close..

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RTR91 said:

There's plenty of potential on this team. However, the 2004 and 2005 USC offenses were loaded with it.

First round WR
First round RB
First round QB
Second round RB
Second round T
Second round G
Two second round WRs
Second round C

Fred Davis was a contributor on the 2005 team and drafted in the second round 2008 draft.

Does this team have that much talent?

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Alasippi said:

Besides QB...yep. Without question.

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RTR91 said:

Pete Carroll is just as conservative as Saban.

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Alasippi said:

This Alabama football team has as much, if not more, offensive talent, and defensive talent, and coaching talent, as any team ever.
Development, of course, is going to be necessary. But there's never been more talent assembled on a practice field, nor a greater coaching staff.
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RTR91 said:

We have players with the potential to go that high, but they haven't gotten to that level of production with the exception of a first round WR (Coop).

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Alasippi said:

I'll take a chance on this one. We've won three of the last five national championships.
USC won one in Carrolls's entire tenure.
So was he that bad of a coach, with all that superior talent?--Or is Coach Saban simply that good, with talent inferior to what Carroll had?
Sip

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Alasippi said:

I'll take a chance on this one. We've won three of the last five national championships.
USC won one in Carrolls's entire tenure.
So was he that bad of a coach, with all that superior talent?--Or is Coach Saban simply that good, with talent inferior to what Carroll had?
Sip

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TideMan09 said:

Exactly..Coach Saban has done more with the same amount of talent, that Pete Carroll had at his time at USCw, Carroll should have won more NC's at USCw & yes Coach Saban it the superior HC of the two & it's not close..

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RTR91 said:

We have players with the potential to go that high, but they haven't gotten to that level of production with the exception of a first round WR (Coop).

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BamaJama17 said:

Most people would argue that now that Carroll has won both a NC and a Super Bowl.


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Alasippi said:

I'll take a chance on this one. We've won three of the last five national championships.
USC won one in Carrolls's entire tenure.
So was he that bad of a coach, with all that superior talent?--Or is Coach Saban simply that good, with talent inferior to what Carroll had?
Sip

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TideMan09 said:

That's a fair & valid point after thinking about it..Obviously Coach Saban has been the superior college HC & Carroll has been the superior NFL HC..So it can be argued they are pretty equal as HC's just at different levels..

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BamaJama17 said:

Then again we must also remember that it takes a lot more than pure coaching ability when being a HC in the NFL IE. owners and gm's. CNS could have been a great NFL HC had he been in a better position like Carroll is.


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tidefan39817 said:

yea...I mean Barry Switzer won a super bowl....

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BamaJama17 said:

Most people would argue that now that Carroll has won both a NC and a Super Bowl.


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Con said:

I love this statement sip. You can't argue with our results.


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Alasippi said:

The NFL is so different. Most of the players are picked by the GM, and, in all honesty, coaching isn't nearly as important as it is at the college level. I'll give Carrol credit for his success, but, to me, it's a totally different scenario.

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BamaJama17 said:

Then again we must also remember that it takes a lot more than pure coaching ability when being a HC in the NFL IE. owners and gm's. CNS could have been a great NFL HC had he been in a better position like Carroll is.


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