Link: NY Times drops a dime on Jameis Winston "investigation"

Bazza · Apr 17, 2014

As Audio said.....this kinda stuff has been going on for a long time in Tallahassee.

Remember Julian Pittman?

In the beginning of his senior year in September 1997, Pittman was charged with burglary and theft when he allegedly broke into a girlfriend’s apartment, and as a result he was given a 30-day jail sentence and five years of probation, as well a suspension from Florida State.[SUP][/SUP] However, he was later reinstated and played the last four games of the 1997 season, including the Sugar Bowl.
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In May 1998, he allegedly committed sexual battery in a bar in Tallahassee, which constituted a probation violation. Facing potentially three and a half years in prison, he was instead ordered to pay a $5,000 fine and perform 500 hours of community service.

Then there was the Peter Warrick arrest and conviction for petty theft in 1999 - suspended for 2 games during the investigation - then allowed to stay on the team AND PLAY the rest of the season. He was a front-runner in the Heisman race that year but thankfully was not invited to the Athletic Club awards event that year.

There have been many other similar situations over the years...here's one back in '93 in which the school's president T.K. Weatherell clearly got away with his involvement in trying to keep the alleged rape 'under wraps' -

TALLAHASSEE -- Florida State University administrators will not be charged with any wrongdoing for allegedly tampering with a rape trial that involved two of the school's athletes, State Attorney Willie Meggs said Tuesday.

Meggs met last week with Florida State President T.K. Wetherell to review the school's involvement in the case -- a rape accusation by a female student athlete against football star Travis Johnson. He was acquitted Aug. 14 of the charge in less than a half hour by an all-woman jury.
The 6-foot-4, 286-pound Johnson -- a key member on the Seminole defense -- was charged with raping the woman on Feb. 6. He said the sex was consensual.
But prosecutor Adam Ruiz was outraged that Florida State officials met with both parties in what he suspected was an effort to divert the case from a highly publicized and embarrassing trial for the school.

It's really just disgusting....

TouchThatThang · Apr 17, 2014

Bazza said:
This tee shirt says it all about the FSU 'faithful' when it comes to morality vs. football....ugh....

The ignorance of some kids is astounding. It's just a game to them. They think it's funny that they got away with it. And they have no idea of the pain the alleged victim would have experienced if the accusations are true: both the pain of the act and the lack of justice--and then seeing crap like this happen all over campus.

Jameis scares me. Every time he talks he just rambles on recklessly like he's in awe of himself or what he just did but at the same time he's not quite sure what he's talking about. Just a weird, discomforting presence that young man has.

IGetBuckets · Apr 17, 2014

B1GTide said:
Their response amounts to, "We gave the NY Times a few vague non-answers. We are not sure why those non-answers were not included in their piece, but here they are for you to read:"

After reading their response, I would never let a daughter attend FSU. Times like these, I am glad that we only had boys.

Yes, their whole response seemed to be hiding behind the "Dear Colleague" letter

TideMan09 · Apr 17, 2014

I really hope this idiot woman never has a Baby Girl of her own that becomes a victim or gets raped one day by members of the football team..While she's tailgating on that campus..Cause from all account rapes & sexual assaults are commonly swept under the rug by their local LEO..I couldn't imagine how I'd react to it should it happen to one of my daughters & it was swept under the rug..They had better hope I don't find out which Player did it, cause I do have a gun, and like to think I don't have the cojones to kill another human, but, when it comes to my girls, all bets are off & I'd go vigilante on the perp or perps that hurts my Baby Girls..Sickening

Bazza said:
This tee shirt says it all about the FSU 'faithful' when it comes to morality vs. football....ugh....

bamaslammer · Apr 17, 2014

Hell would freeze over before I let my daughter go to Florida State. Changing the logo isn't going to wipe a way the stain of this sin.

B1GTide · Apr 17, 2014

Bazza said:
This tee shirt says it all about the FSU 'faithful' when it comes to morality vs. football....ugh....

Words can't express my thoughts about this shirt, or the girl wearing it. At least, not on a site like this.

twofbyc · Apr 17, 2014

B1GTide said:
Words can't express my thoughts about this shirt, or the girl wearing it. At least, not on a site like this.

I'd be willing to bet that, "consensually", she has loved the whole football team. There are several words to describe her, but just knowing who and what she is works for me.
And I know her parents are proud....

Alasippi · Apr 17, 2014

I just saw a promo on Fox News where Bill O'Reilly is doing an investigative piece with the question, "The Winston Investigation--Was there A Cover-Up?".
It's getting hot on the frying pan.
sip

TideMan09 · Apr 17, 2014

That's actually great for the Ladies involved & hopefully some sorta justice will finally prevail..I may not like Bill O'Reilly or what he believes in..I do respect the fact that when he believes in a "Cause" of injustice & puts his efforts in righting a wrong..He's like a damn bulldog going after a T'Bone that hasn't ate in weeks..He's aggressive & won't stop until he thinks the wrong has been righted..It's going to be a bad bad day for all involved with the cover-up when Bill gets in town & I love it..And I wish Nancy Grace would add "Insult To Injury" & get on them as well, she really gets on my nerves, and would make their lives a living hell every night on her TV Show should she get on the bandwagon as well.. JMHO

Alasippi said:
I just saw a promo on Fox News where Bill O'Reilly is doing an investigative piece with the question, "The Winston Investigation--Was there A Cover-Up?".
It's getting hot on the frying pan.
sip

BroadwayJoe777 · Apr 17, 2014

B1GTide said:
Words can't express my thoughts about this shirt, or the girl wearing it. At least, not on a site like this.

Nevermind...

B1GTide · Apr 17, 2014

TideMan09 said:
That's actually great for the Ladies involved & hopefully some sorta justice will finally prevail..I may not like Bill O'Reilly or what he believes in..I do respect the fact that when he believes in a "Cause" of injustice & puts his efforts in righting a wrong..He's like a damn bulldog going after a T'Bone that hasn't ate in weeks..He's aggressive & won't stop until he thinks the wrong has been righted..It's going to be a bad bad day for all involved with the cover-up when Bill gets in town & I love it..And I wish Nancy Grace would add "Insult To Injury" & get on them as well, she really gets on my nerves, and would make their lives a living hell every night on her TV Show should she get on the bandwagon as well.. JMHO

What this case needs is some Nancy Grace. :eek2:

Catfish · Apr 18, 2014

B1GTide said:
What this case needs is some Nancy Grace. :eek2:

What Jupiter needs is some Nancy Grace. NASA should get on that right away.

Crimson1967 · Apr 18, 2014

I agree the shirt she is wearing is beyond disgusting.

I do love her button, however.

bamabelle1991 · Apr 18, 2014

That article infuriates me!! As one of those people who has thought Winston to be guilty the whole time--this cements my feelings!! Predator!! Ugh!!

Catfish · Apr 18, 2014

bamabelle1991 said:
That article infuriates me!! As one of those people who has thought Winston to be guilty the whole time--this cements my feelings!! Predator!! Ugh!!

I don't know who to be disgusted with more in this whole affair. Winston for what he did (allegedly

), Casher and Winston's other buddy who covered for him (allegedly

), the TPD or Forced Sex U.

major tidefan · Apr 18, 2014

Bazza said:
This tee shirt says it all about the FSU 'faithful' when it comes to morality vs. football....ugh....

She'll make someone a fine wife.

Chukker Veteran · Apr 18, 2014

I'm trying to decide if FSU had taken a different approach...

Conducted a legitimate investigation followed by dismissing him from the team. Then, a year later, after his rehabilitation is done, welcome him back to the team.

Would Bama fans be satisfied the right thing had been done? Just asking...

DocCrimson · Apr 18, 2014

Chukker Veteran said:
I'm trying to decide if FSU had taken a different approach...

Conducted a legitimate investigation followed by dismissing him from the team. Then, a year later, after his rehabilitation is done, welcome him back to the team.

Would Bama fans be satisfied the right thing had been done? Just asking...

I'm not sure how I would feel about it, but I definitely appreciate the point. It's good to look in the mirror from time to time.

RammerJammer14 · Apr 18, 2014

Chukker Veteran said:
I'm trying to decide if FSU had taken a different approach...

Conducted a legitimate investigation followed by dismissing him from the team. Then, a year later, after his rehabilitation is done, welcome him back to the team.

Would Bama fans be satisfied the right thing had been done? Just asking...

No, and I am not happy about that situation with our program, either.

B1GTide · Apr 18, 2014

Chukker Veteran said:
I'm trying to decide if FSU had taken a different approach...

Conducted a legitimate investigation followed by dismissing him from the team. Then, a year later, after his rehabilitation is done, welcome him back to the team.

Would Bama fans be satisfied the right thing had been done? Just asking...

It isn't okay to give FSU or the police department a pass because Alabama has made a few decisions with which you personally disagree. And robbery/battery are not rape - or even close.

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