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I must admit this did elicit a chuckle. This morning it was all over the place that Blooming Idiot, the former NYC mayor, is starting a new gun control group. I think it's called Everytown for Gun Safety or some other propagandist name. Interesting and won't achieve anything. But then just a moment ago while surfing I come across Harry Reid deciding to not put the Democrats anymore at risk this fall by tabling gun control legislation.

I think they're trying to solve the wrong problem myself. Look, gun control on the whole is a stupid debate. They could pass ten thousand laws (I think there are 40,000 regulations on the book for guns IIRC) and it won't prevent workplace violence or school place shootings. It won't stop even one. By the same token, the "feds will come get us" argument doesn't hold water, either, since if they want you dead a drone will vaporize your house.

I just thought folks on the same issue splitting on the same day was pretty hilarious.
 
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Don't worry. They are on it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7508404.stm
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Beat me to it. Wikipedia isn't much more than a place to start, but here is a Wiki link concerning global knife legislation. A few particulars:

In Denmark fixed-blade knives are legal to own if the blade is no longer than 12 cm (4.75-in.). Blades over this length may only be legally owned if the possessor has a legitimate reason for carrying the knife and/or a special collector's permit...Knives with blades that may be opened with one hand (even if the one-hand opening mechanism has been removed),.... are illegal to own or possess. Multi-tools featuring one-hand opening blades are also illegal to own or possess.
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Carrying a knife with blade length over 8 centimetres (3.1 in) is prohibited in public places in Hungary unless justified by sport, work or everyday activity.
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In recent years, laws criminalising knife possession in the United Kingdom have been strictly interpreted and applied by police and prosecutors to citizens and foreigners alike of all ages and backgrounds, even where the evidence supporting the crime is in doubt. This development, combined with increasingly frequent application of such laws to marginal or inadvertent offenders by the police and the public prosecutor can easily result in an arrest and a criminal charge in the event a person carrying a folding knife, scissors, plastic knife, multi-tool, or bladed object is detained and searched, and the defendant may have to wait weeks or months for a trial or other disposition of his case by the public prosecutor
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Just whats needed, an arms race in school
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But his point was just as valid as yours.

Besides - why does everyone think these things are heavily planned? Columbine was, but most of these workplace/school shootings may be planned in the sense that they showed up with a weapon but they haven't really thought much about other than sometimes one person they're for sure going to kill/maim.
 
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I love how people make fun of this as if it's a ludicrous proposition, all while 'gun free' zones become targets over andover and over...
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The Culture of Violence in the American West: Myth versus Reality
Dozens of movies have portrayed the nineteenth-century mining camps in the West as hot beds of anarchy and violence, but John Umbeck discovered that, beginning in 1848, the miners began forming contracts with one another to restrain their own behavior (1981, 51). There was no government authority in California at the time, apart from a few military posts. The miners’ contracts established property rights in land (and in any gold found on the land) that the miners themselves enforced. Miners who did not accept the rules the majority adopted were free to mine elsewhere or to set up their own contractual arrangements with other miners. The rules that were adopted were often consequently established with unanimous consent (Anderson and Hill 1979, 19). As long as a miner abided by the rules, the other miners defended his rights under the community contract. If he did not abide by the agreed-on rules, his claim would be regarded as “open to any [claim] jumpers” (Umbeck 1981, 53).

The mining camps hired “enforcement specialists”—justices of the peace and arbitrators—and developed an extensive body of property and criminal law. As a result, there was very little violence and theft. The fact that the miners were usually armed also helps to explain why crime was relatively infrequent. Benson concludes, “The contractual system of law effectively generated cooperation rather than conflict, and on those occasions when conflict arose it was, by and large, effectively quelled through nonviolent means” (1998, 105).
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And the "Wild West" is commonly cited as something we don't want, when it was much more civil than what we have today, unlike Hollywood's treatment of it.
 
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selmaborntidefan said:
I must admit this did elicit a chuckle. This morning it was all over the place that Blooming Idiot, the former NYC mayor, is starting a new gun control group. I think it's called Everytown for Gun Safety or some other propagandist name. Interesting and won't achieve anything. But then just a moment ago while surfing I come across Harry Reid deciding to not put the Democrats anymore at risk this fall by tabling gun control legislation.

I think they're trying to solve the wrong problem myself. Look, gun control on the whole is a stupid debate. They could pass ten thousand laws (I think there are 40,000 regulations on the book for guns IIRC) and it won't prevent workplace violence or school place shootings. It won't stop even one. By the same token, the "feds will come get us" argument doesn't hold water, either, since if they want you dead a drone will vaporize your house.

I just thought folks on the same issue splitting on the same day was pretty hilarious.
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I wouldn't underestimate this project. That kind of arrogance leads to complacency.
 
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He plans to spend 50 million of his own money to fight gun rights. Just think of what he could accomplish with that money if he were truly concerned about people rather than controlling them.
 
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