My favorite part of the game was when MSU had to punt on a 4th and goal.
My favorite part of the game was when MSU had to punt on a 4th and goal.
plus their QB in 2015 will most likely be Del RioAbout Oregon State, want a storyline game. A link between CPB and CNS through CMR. CMR played for CPB and he coaches a game against CNS. It would be a homecoming for him.
My favorite part was between kickoff and the final whistle. :biggrin:My favorite part of the game was when MSU had to punt on a 4th and goal.
That was done because we thought the SEC was going to go to a nine game schedule which Saban favored. The other coaches however had the biggest reservations.Don't really care what other programs do. All I said all along is that we were the ones that canceled the MSU series. Like I said before I'm sure CNS and the decision makers did what was in the best interest of our program which is what they should do. Listen twice as much as you talk and you might learn something. 2 ears 1 mouth for a reason.
Mine was knocking out two QBs. Their 3rd string QB was actually a WR who used to play QB, he had previously been knocked out of the game by Mosley but came back in.My favorite part was between kickoff and the final whistle. :biggrin:
Yea but my point all along was that Saban knew there was no where near enough support to go to a 9 game conference schedule. It wasn't like it was going to be a 50/50 outcome. I think Saban is the only coach who really wanted to do it. Again, Saban will say that's why we dropped MSU but that excuse doesn't hold water with me. And then we turn around and say we can't find anyone to play or we want to do a "neutral" site game in Atlanta. Why would MSU want to do that? It would be like a home game for us. If Saban wants to do neutral site we need to find somewhere outside the south to play the game at.That was done because we thought the SEC was going to go to a nine game schedule which Saban favored. The other coaches however had the biggest reservations.
And good Lord it was HOT at that game. Probably didn't help that I Had walking pneumonia...We played a one game deal with BYU back in 1998.
They were the first opponent in BDS after it was expanded to 83,818 with the east upper deck. Shaun Alexander scored a school record 5 TDs that evening.
It was not about the 9 game SEC schedule. Read this piece - it was about the change in philosophy from home/home series to neutral site games - dictated by $$$: http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2013/09/source_michigan_state_didnt_wa.htmlYea but my point all along was that Saban knew there was no where near enough support to go to a 9 game conference schedule. It wasn't like it was going to be a 50/50 outcome. I think Saban is the only coach who really wanted to do it. Again, Saban will say that's why we dropped MSU but that excuse doesn't hold water with me. And then we turn around and say we can't find anyone to play or we want to do a "neutral" site game in Atlanta. Why would MSU want to do that? It would be like a home game for us. If Saban wants to do neutral site we need to find somewhere outside the south to play the game at.
You misrepresented my quote. I never said it was canceled because of the potential 9 game SEC schedule. That's what almost everyone else in this thread said was why Saban canceled the series. I said that's a bad excuse because Saban knew we weren't going to a 9 game conference schedule. I also said the same thing that you were referring to that Saban doesn't want to do home and home series anymore. He wants to do "neutral" site games but the problem I brought up is why should MSU want to come to Atlanta for a neutral site game that would pretty much be a home game for us. Not sure if you quoted the wrong post or not. I don't really think $$ had anything to do with it. Bama is one of the top revenue and profit generating athletic departments. I believe he canceled it when he figured out we were playing AT Georgia in 2015 and Saban probably didn't want to play at Michigan State, at Georgia, at Auburn, and at Texas a&m in the same season.It was not about the 9 game SEC schedule. Read this piece - it was about the change in philosophy from home/home series to neutral site games - dictated by $$$: http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2013/09/source_michigan_state_didnt_wa.html
Saban had never done or said anything that would have me question his desire to play tough competition as often as possible every season. I am not sure how you let this thought creep into your head, but it didn't come from his words or actions. Or does canceling a single series matter more that all of the games that he has scheduled?
Yep, they all run off screaming... 'You ain't heard the last of this'.John David Phillips. Any of y'all remember him? I remember there was high hopes for him that year but he struggled and yes, the humidity was brutal for that game.
That was a great game. BYU played very well that night.
Oh and Selma, I'm sure all of those teams would just LOVE to play us and show us how its done, but they just can't work out a free weekend. Funny how that works, ya know?
I remember back when dinosaurs roamed the plains, and FSU was trying to make their bones,Southern Mississippi already has 4 OOC games scheduled in 2015. One of which is at home against BYU. Which is one of 6 away games that BYU has scheduled. Which means they would not be receptive to playing a seventh in Tuscaloosa.
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-15/conf-usa/2015-southern-miss-golden-eagles-football-schedule.php
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-15/indep/2015-byu-cougars-football-schedule.php
I think $$ had a lot to do with it. Bama's athletic dept. as a whole since CNS has been here has averaged about 13m profit per year...and that's winning 3 NC's and having seven home games every year. We have what 16 or 17 sports and football revenue pays for 95% of them. We need home games. How do you get seven home games? You play schools that will come to T-town and don't require a return trip by us...and that's mostly FCS and smaller FBS schools.Take away the revenue of a home game and add in the expense of a road game and I would bet you'd cut your profit by close to 25%. Could Bama make it with six home games? Sure. That will be tough on AD's and HC's, balancing SOS needs and financial needs.I don't really think $$ had anything to do with it. Bama is one of the top revenue and profit generating athletic departments.
I don't buy your thesis. A lot of programs do home and home series that are in much worse financial shape than we are in. We also pay out large sums, a lot of times in the millions, for an FCS team or a team like southern Mississippi to come to Tuscaloosa. I'm sorry I just don't think money played a big role in the decision.I think $$ had a lot to do with it. Bama's athletic dept. as a whole since CNS has been here has averaged about 13m profit per year...and that's winning 3 NC's and having seven home games every year. We have what 16 or 17 sports and football revenue pays for 95% of them. We need home games. How do you get seven home games? You play schools that will come to T-town and don't require a return trip by us...and that's mostly FCS and smaller FBS schools.Take away the revenue of a home game and add in the expense of a road game and I would bet you'd cut your profit by close to 25%. Could Bama make it with six home games? Sure. That will be tough on AD's and HC's, balancing SOS needs and financial needs.
Then there's the local economy to consider. I read an article a few years ago that estimated a Bama home game pumped about $15m into the local economy. I'd bet the PTB in T-town don't want to lose that if at all possible.
IMO, to have a profitable athletic dept. you need a winning football team, a great supportive fan base, and play seven home games a year...and we have all of 'em.
Saban said that it did. I accept it. Not sure why you don't.I don't buy your thesis. A lot of programs do home and home series that are in much worse financial shape than we are in. We also pay out large sums, a lot of times in the millions, for an FCS team or a team like southern Mississippi to come to Tuscaloosa. I'm sorry I just don't think money played a big role in the decision.
No need to get upset because I have a different opinion. Just off season message board talk about something that doesn't even really matter. I stand by my previous posts. Is something wrong with that or do I have to agree with you?Saban said that it did. I accept it. Not sure why you don't.
Perhaps doing a lot of home and home series is one reason most programs are in worse financial shape. I haven't done any research but I'd bet there is a direct correlation between athletic departments that are in the black and playing at least seven home games.I don't buy your thesis. A lot of programs do home and home series that are in much worse financial shape than we are in. We also pay out large sums, a lot of times in the millions, for an FCS team or a team like southern Mississippi to come to Tuscaloosa. I'm sorry I just don't think money played a big role in the decision.