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Nope.

And I'd like to know what fans thought this was going to be less subjective than the BCS? Going from over a 100 human voters and 6 computer ratings systems to 13 academics was never going to make this less​ subjective.

I read the article and did not come away with anything that makes me feel any better about this selection committee. No computer rankings and just 13 opinions does not sit well with me.

Just for all to know. Condi Rice (past Secretary of State), who I worked for 2 years
when I did State Department work is on the 13 and she is a die hard B A M A fan.

So, she will not let things get out of hand.....

Ron

Doesn't she have to leave the room when we're being discussed?

Leave.......NO

I've never seen something that should be so easy turn into a mess like this...

Somebody needs to point out to Alvarez that it isn't enough to PLAY a tough nonconference schedule.

You have to WIN the games.

Besides - this is only going to make a huge difference if those slackers at Arkansas or Kentucky make it. The rest of the SEC does a pretty good job.

"The committee was instructed to use the conference champion as a de facto tie breaker with two similar teams". So if this was in affect in 2011 Alabama does not make the final four?

GrayTide said:

I read the article and did not come away with anything that makes me feel any better about this selection committee. No computer rankings and just 13 opinions does not sit well with me.

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Put simply, it's a joke. We can only hope that the four best teams are really clear so this ridiculous committee doesn't screw it up.

teamplayer said:

Put simply, it's a joke. We can only hope that the four best teams are really clear so this ridiculous committee doesn't screw it up.

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I only hope the two best teams show up and we are one of them.

TideEngineer08 said:

Nope.

And I'd like to know what fans thought this was going to be less subjective than the BCS? Going from over a 100 human voters and 6 computer ratings systems to 13 academics was never going to make this less​ subjective.

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I don't know of any fans who ever supported the committee idea. Plenty support the playoff format.

TideEngineer08 said:

Nope.

And I'd like to know what fans thought this was going to be less subjective than the BCS? Going from over a 100 human voters and 6 computer ratings systems to 13 academics was never going to make this less​ subjective.

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Yes, because everyone knows having MORE humans makes a process LESS subjective (face palm)

To be fair - I know what you're saying, but it's the computers that presumably offset the human bias.

i26bamafan said:

Just for all to know. Condi Rice (past Secretary of State), who I worked for 2 years
when I did State Department work is on the 13 and she is a die hard B A M A fan.

So, she will not let things get out of hand.....

Ron

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If Rice is a Bama homer, and I imagine you are correct...but aren't they supposed to be impartial...

How many homers are there out of 13 people pulling for a different personal favorite?

From the quote from the Wisconsin AD, looks like he's already testing excuses to dis the SEC teams.

GrayTide said:

"The committee was instructed to use the conference champion as a de facto tie breaker with two similar teams". So if this was in affect in 2011 Alabama does not make the final four?

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Who would we have lost to?

Here (yet again) are the final regular season BCS standings:

1) LSU - Nobody argues they're in
2) Alabama
3) Okie State - okay, they're in
4) Stanford
5) Oregon (two losses - to LSU and USC) - Pac 12 champions
6) Arkansas - lost to both LSU and Alabama by 24 points
7) Boise St
8) Kansas St - two losses, to Okie St and OU
9) South Carolina - two losses, did not win division
10) Wisconsin - two losses but won Big Ten
11) Va Tech - two losses, did not win conference

So in a FOUR-TEAM playoff you have FOR SURE:
LSU and Okie State

You now get to pick the other two from:
Alabama - not a conference champ (one loss)
Stanford - not a conference champ (one loss)
Oregon - conf champ, TWO losses, but drilled Stanford and LOST to LSU by FOUR TIMES as many points as Alabama did
Boise St - (seriously?)

These are the only SERIOUS contenders for two spots.

If you go SOS, Boise is out and Alabama is IN - and now you have to decide between two-loss Oregon and one-loss Stanford, whose one loss was to Oregon AT HOME by 23 points.

What's amusing to me is that all the crying was about Alabama and yet if we had had a FOUR-TEAM playoff there would have been just as much screaming no matter whether Oregon or Stanford was picked. And here's the deal - since Oregon: a) PLAYED AN EXTRA GAME AGAINST LSU AT A NEUTRAL SITE; b) beat Stanford head-to-head; and c) won the conference........this would be one time when it would be TOTALLY RATIONAL to pick a two-loss team over a one-loss team.

How can you punish Oregon for playing an extra game against LSU, particularly when the final score was not all that bad (although I realize Oregon never had a chance to win)?

None of the other teams in that list eliminate Alabama, since not only did they not win their divsions/conferences, they had TWO losses.

But then again I'm being as unbiased as I can be.

OK, seems I forgot to talk about Wisconsin.

They won the Big Ten, so I'm sure Delaney sets himself on fire.

So maybe you're right.

Chukker Veteran said:

If Rice is a Bama homer, and I imagine you are correct...but aren't they supposed to be impartial...

How many homers are there out of 13 people pulling for a different personal favorite?

From the quote from the Wisconsin AD, looks like he's already testing excuses to dis the SEC teams.

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Fiercely competitive person, who still actively leads an ultra-competitive football program, spending millions of dollars trying to get to a 4 team invitational. Lord help his bias, if his, "dog in the fight" manages to get past LSU.

said Wisconsin AD and committee member Barry Alvarez. “… It’s pretty easy for me to take a look at a schedule and see what the intent of the schedule is.”

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By this he means that Wisc intended to beat LSU so they should get in.

Disaster in waiting.

How about this critical question:

How quickly can we apologize for being wrong and just use the BCS to determine the 4 teams?