Alabama Leans on Out of State Players

Well it is a really top heavy state. Outside of the top 10-15, the rest are C-USA or Sun Belt type players. Years like 2008 or 2009 don't come around very often. It's VERY convenient to border Georgia, Florida, and Louisiana.


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BamaJama17 said:

It's VERY convenient to border Louisiana.

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Where exactly do we border Louisiana?

tide96 said:

Where exactly do we border Louisiana?

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Umm idk I'll have to look back at my updated map with 57 states. whoops my bad lol


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tide96 said:

Where exactly do we border Louisiana?

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That's okay, Coach Saban's cherry picker reaches well into the Bayou.

tide96 said:

Where exactly do we border Louisiana?

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Mobile?

I remember when both Bama and Auburn signed 70% of their rosters from Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile..
Times have changed, big time.

The subtext of that article is very interesting. Sort of echoes some points that Jess has made in recent months.

CrimsonProf said:

The subtext of that article is very interesting. Sort of echoes some points that Jess has made in recent months.

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It's a provocative column but ultimately a disappointing one because Cecil doesn't spell out where he stands on that very question.

Alasippi said:

I remember when both Bama and Auburn signed 70% of their rosters from Birmingham, Montgomery, and Mobile..
Times have changed, big time.

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I remember the glory days of Banks and Woodlawn.

CrimsonEyeshade said:

It's a provocative column but ultimately a disappointing one because Cecil doesn't spell out where he stands on that very question.

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I think he's telling CNS to tread lightly...or at least noting that the downside to national recruiting is that your players don't hate Auburn and UT enough.

CullmanTide said:

I remember the glory days of Banks and Woodlawn.

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Banks was incredible, year after year. I remember Bubba Holland, a linebacker from Woodlawn, who signed with Auburn. He was half crazy and 100% good.
The team I remember most was the Mountain Brook team with Major Olgilvie. That was the most complicated and unstoppable high school offense I've ever seen. Four options on every single play.
In the semi finals of the state they played my alma mater, Walker County, and beat us 59-48.
They stopped us once. I don't think we stopped them at all.
I still have great respect for Banks, most of all, because I hit my first home run in high school against them, and when I rounded second, their shortstop, Jeff Rutledge, slapped me on the butt with his glove and said, "Great hit". That's pretty classy.
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CrimsonEyeshade said:

It's a provocative column but ultimately a disappointing one because Cecil doesn't spell out where he stands on that very question.

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I really don't think there's a stand to taken at all. Nowadays, you've got to find the best players, wherever they are. That's what Coach Saban does and it obviously works pretty well.
I agree with the overall sentiment of, "I wish we signed more in state kids". I really do.
But there's just not that many anymore.
The total cultural collapse in Urban Birmingham is the biggest contributor.
But it is what it is, and Coach S. has to do what he's gotta do.
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Alasippi said:

Banks was incredible, year after year. I remember Bubba Holland, a linebacker from Woodlawn, who signed with Auburn. He was half crazy and 100% good.
The team I remember most was the Mountain Brook team with Major Olgilvie. That was the most complicated and unstoppable high school offense I've ever seen. Four options on every single play.
In the semi finals of the state they played my alma mater, Walker County, and beat us 59-48.
They stopped us once. I don't think we stopped them at all.
I still have great respect for Banks, most of all, because I hit my first home run in high school against them, and when I rounded second, their shortstop, Jeff Rutledge, slapped me on the butt with his glove and said, "Great hit". That's pretty classy.
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Y'all didn't play defense back then??? :biggrin:

CrimsonProf said:

Y'all didn't play defense back then??? :biggrin:

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Their QB, Richard Burg, an Arkansas signee, had four options on every play. He would ride the fullback into the hole. Meanwhile a wide receiver always ran a slant pattern. If the fullback was covered he'd look to see if the receiver was open. If so, he'd throw him a quick pass. If not he'd continue the option. If the corner covered the receiver running the slant he'd read the defensive end.
If the defensive end took Olgilvie, he'd keep the ball. If the defensive end took him, he'd pitch it to Olgilvie.
Because the corner had taken the receiver, if Olgilvie got the pitch, there was absolutely no defender out there to try and tackle him. He'd run 30 yards before the defense knew he had the ball.
Like I said--the most complicated offense I've ever seen, but those Mountain Brook kids were incredibly smart and they ran it to perfection.
Never seen anything like it.
Walker gave up about 10 points a game before that clash.
In the finals of the state I believe they beat Grissom of Huntsville 38-6, and Grissom had only given up like five TD's the entire season.
It wasn't that teams didn't play defense back then, that Mountain Brook team was just simply unstoppable.
The only high school team I ever saw that I thought was better was the Colbert County team with Ozzie Newsome, Phil Gargis and Thad Flanagan.
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I've always thought that the Mobile area has put out more D1 talent in the last 10-15 years.


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BamaJama17 said:

I've always thought that the Mobile area has put out more D1 talent in the last 10-15 years.


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They have BamaJama, but Birmingham used to have countless D-1 players in both football and basketball every single year. Those kids up there now are caught up in a world that doesn't take them to a bright future in athletics.
I'm not talking about Hoover, etc. or the suburbs. I'm talking about the inner city which used to be a hotbed for incredible athletes. It's just simply dissappeared.

The University is also more than 50% out of state student body as of this past year. Just an interesting correlation.

RammerJammer14 said:

The University is also more than 50% out of state student body as of this past year. Just an interesting correlation.

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things change, and they have.

CrimsonProf said:

I think he's telling CNS to tread lightly...or at least noting that the downside to national recruiting is that your players don't hate Auburn and UT enough.

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I don't think he said that, and I wouldn't have agreed with him if he had, but it would have made for a better column.