Precisely, no program is immune from this type behavior.Exactly, this is why I don't bother commenting on threads about other schools. They have problem players....we have problem players. It is what it is.
My days at Bama were full of choices, I had to decide which one to afford, drink or drive, electric or water, beer or food. DUI's were out of the question for this Po Boy.The good news is we are loaded at DE with A'Shawn, Liner, Allen, Tomlinson, Pettway & Hand. Put Reed at the bottom of the depth chart and work 3x as hard as the others to get on the field. We've all been college kids and made stupid choices and with those choices come consequences. It is a privilege to play at BAMA and IMO getting arrested means you lost that privilege for the time being.
Exactly, this is why I don't bother commenting on threads about other schools. They have problem players....we have problem players. It is what it is.
Got that right!Precisely, no program is immune from this type behavior.
Saban does all of the above and it, in most circumstances cost playing time too. There are consequences that Coach Saban enforces that we never see or hear about.I feel as if I'm playing Devil's Advocate here but anyway:
Why does off the field trouble always translate into restricting playing time-- on the field. So instead of taking away playing time why not take away free time? Make the player do community service, send him to support groups, show him consequences to his actions (the Cowboys player that drove drunk and killed his teammate). I'm just saying let the punishment fit the crime.
I think it's a little much to label Reed a "problem player" for this. I've known plenty of good people to make dumb decisions. Unless Reed gets into more trouble after this, I'd say this was just a lapse in judgment (albeit a serious one)...Exactly, this is why I don't bother commenting on threads about other schools. They have problem players....we have problem players. It is what it is.
because, despite the university and ncaa lines to the contrary, at major football schools they are there to enhance their chances of becoming professional football players and to return revenue to the athletic department...they aren't there to be students or good members of the community.I feel as if I'm playing Devil's Advocate here but anyway:
Why does off the field trouble always translate into restricting playing time-- on the field. So instead of taking away playing time why not take away free time? Make the player do community service, send him to support groups, show him consequences to his actions (the Cowboys player that drove drunk and killed his teammate). I'm just saying let the punishment fit the crime.
The idea is to prevent recurrence. In this case, it's a little harder because Reed was fortunate enough not to have had a wreck or worse. So you also need for him to understand the gravity of what he did.I feel as if I'm playing Devil's Advocate here but anyway:
Why does off the field trouble always translate into restricting playing time-- on the field. So instead of taking away playing time why not take away free time? Make the player do community service, send him to support groups, show him consequences to his actions (the Cowboys player that drove drunk and killed his teammate). I'm just saying let the punishment fit the crime.
I think it's a little much to label Reed a "problem player" for this. I've known plenty of good people to make dumb decisions. Unless Reed gets into more trouble after this, I'd say this was just a lapse in judgment (albeit a serious one)...
I'd agree with this. In some states you can test positive for DUI if you've taken cough syrup.The idea is to prevent recurrence. In this case, it's a little harder because Reed was fortunate enough not to have had a wreck or worse. So you also need for him to understand the gravity of what he did.
For punishment, you take away the thing the offender values most -- in the case of a football player with NFL aspirations, it's playing time.
To help him understand the gravity of the offense, Saban often does the other things you suggest...community service, riding with police on a Saturday night, etc.
I'd also offer that there are degrees of drunkenness, and as much emotion as there is in the advocacy for zero tolerance, they pose different levels of threat.
If he blew .09%, that wouldn't have even been DWI when I was in school. But as another poster already observed, he looks pretty intoxicated in the mugshot. If he blew .15% or higher, he posed an entirely different level of danger to the public and himself. If it was .20%, I don't know how he put one foot in front of the other to get to the car in the first place.
If I were in Saban's shoes, the degree of drunkeness would figure into the punishment.
Some of these young men don't even have a dad in their lives. Saban will usually work with a young man if he has the right attitude and can be taught the right things to do.if i had a vote, he would be off the team for this.........
They had a horrible crash and my dad"s friend was killed. My dad had to live with that his whole life. He was tormented by it. Practically beat it into his kid's heads to always call if I was too drunk to drive. .
Careful. Pot is the gate-way to heroin needles and such, this was just a little too much harmless alcohol.This is worse than being "cited" for pot. DUI is like using a deadly weapon on the streets.