http://www.chron.com/news/crime/art...ally-shoots-burglar-5644295.php#photo-6640676
So? Sucks for her.
Choose life, don't rape, steal, rob or burglarize.
So? Sucks for her.
Choose life, don't rape, steal, rob or burglarize.
Pregnant or not, fleeing or not, she deserved to be shot IMO.Greer returned home shortly after 9 p.m. Tuesday to find the pair in his home. Both suspects attacked him, hitting him with their fists and ultimately "body slamming" him to the floor, breaking his collar bone, McDonnell said.
We'll disagree on this one. He was assaulted, body-slammed to the floor, had a broken collar bone, so who knows what state of mind he was in. He may have been concussed for all we know. As you like to say and Buzzard quoted it above....He'll spend the last of his time on this earth in jail, as he should.
ETA: also, the caliber of the firearm - two shots from a .22lr revolver and she's dead (read this in another article)...
And according to the shooter, she was running away. There was no imminent threat, so this is simply revenge, like it or not.We'll disagree on this one. He was assaulted, body-slammed to the floor, had a broken collar bone, so who knows what state of mind he was in. He may have been concussed for all we know. As you like to say and Buzzard quoted it above....
Yup.She took a risk to pursue illegal activity and it cost her life.
If more of them were shot, the crime rate would definitely drop.She may have been pregnant, but would you really trust anything coming out of the mouth of someone who had just finished robbing and beating you? I guess the autopsy will tell.
Normally you don't have the right to shoot someone who is fleeing. But I have heard of people doing just that and not being convicted.
How do we know what state of mind an 80 year old man was in after he got body slammed to the ground and had his collar bone broken?And according to the shooter, she was running away. There was no imminent threat, so this is simply revenge, like it or not.
Do I think the law should be different? Perhaps, but it isn't. He committed murder under the law.
Yup.
The jury will decide that, but he seemed pretty clear-headed and non-remorseful in the followup interviews.How do we know what state of mind an 80 year old man was in after he got body slammed to the ground and had his collar bone broken?
PTSDThe jury will decide that, but he seemed pretty clear-headed and non-remorseful in the followup interviews.
You can disagree with the law (I don't in this case), but you the reality is you can only shoot someone if you are in imminent fear of grave bodily harm or death in most every state. Like it or not, he had zero right to shoot her.
I disagree sir, I think he absolutely had a right to shoot her. Now, legally, I don't know; you are probably correct there, but if I was on the jury, I would be the not guilty hold out.The jury will decide that, but he seemed pretty clear-headed and non-remorseful in the followup interviews.
You can disagree with the law (I don't in this case), but you the reality is you can only shoot someone if you are in imminent fear of grave bodily harm or death in most every state. Like it or not, he had zero right to shoot her.
OK, so where is the line between self defense and a revenge killing? If someone walks up and punches you in the jaw then runs away, do you think you should be able to shoot them?I disagree sir, I think he absolutely had a right to shoot her. Now, legally, I don't know; you are probably correct there, but if I was on the jury, I would be the not guilty hold out.
I think it's different by the nature of the home break-in. Even if the person is fleeing, I'm willing to afford a person a lot of leniency in defending their home.OK, so where is the line between self defense and a revenge killing? If someone walks up and punches you in the jaw then runs away, do you think you should be able to shoot them?
I guess if it happens during or immediately following a violent act, I will always give the benefit of the doubt to the person who was attacked. If it is a good while later, ok, you're correct; that is revenge. Which I am also ok with in some situations such as violence toward children. etc.OK, so where is the line between self defense and a revenge killing? If someone walks up and punches you in the jaw then runs away, do you think you should be able to shoot them?
This really doesn't make a lot of sense. Are you saying that, if someone isn't a danger to society, they didn't really commit a crime?The guy did us a favor. Who is more dangerous to society? The one who broke into someone's house and assaulted the elderly man living there, or the man who shot fleeing intruders?
I approve of vigilantiism on a case-by-case basis.OK, so where is the line between self defense and a revenge killing? If someone walks up and punches you in the jaw then runs away, do you think you should be able to shoot them?