Question: Who Will be Bama's Most Likely Heisman Contender in 2014?

BamaHoosier

All-American
Jan 17, 2011
3,614
620
132
Noblesville Indiana
I've been watching the Auburn and A&M replay from last year on ESPNU this morning, and the Aflac trivia question got me pondering something. For reference, the question was "Since 2000, who have been the non-quarterback's to win the Heisman?" (Of course the answer being Bush in '05 and Ingram in '09.) It got me thinking about our Heisman chances for this year, and who would be most likely to be in the mix.

Now first I will say, I really don't think any of our guys will come in and win the Heisman this year. Runningbacks would most likely be our best bet to win another one, but the carries will be so dispersed that I don't think any of our backs will put up the eye popping numbers needed to win it as a back. I think Cooper could be in the discussion if he was in a pass happy offense like a Texas Tech, (ala Crabtree) but he's another one that I don't think he will get the necessary touches. Since quarterback always seems to be the front-runner, you would think that Coker could get there. However, he already has such high expectations being set for him by the media that it would almost require a super-human effort to get him to Heisman levels. (and we all know that is not what we require of our quarterbacks. Now that I've given the reasons why none of our players will win it, allow me to share who I think could compete:

TJ Yeldon: He is such a stud, and he makes it look so easy that we often overlook how good he is. He was viewed by some to have had a Soph slump last year, and he still ran for well over 1,000. He is less than 700 yards away from setting our all-time rushing record, and he hasn't even started his Jr year yet. Now, his carries may be cut based off of the talent behind him, specifically in Henry, but it is quite possible that Yeldon comes out with his hair on fire and runs away from his competition. If he does, he could easily put up the stats to put himself in the discussion.

Jacob Coker: Again, I don't think he in any way finds himself in the discussion. However, if he leads us to an undefeated season, and if he puts up really good numbers, he could conceivably get there. He has the backfield to keep the defense from committing to stopping the pass, and he has the receivers to get the ball to that can help him put up a lot of numbers. I think a lot of his candidacy will depend on if the play calling will require for him to be a game manager or a play maker, and if the O-line can keep his jersey clean.

Those are the only two this year who I think could compete. I just don't see anyone person having enough prevalence in the play calling to put up the numerical stats to be in the conversation. However, I will also throw two names in for 2015 that I could easily see there as well:

Derrick Henry: He's almost a given here, but for good reason. He is a once in a lifetime type of runningback. He's so big that he's almost too big, and he's so fast that it's scary. He has all of the tools, and he will be the veteran in 2015 amongst a field of rookies. Yelden will most likely be gone, Drake may be gone depending on where he is next year, Fowler will be gone, and that leaves Henry as the veteran. He will undoubtedly have as much talent behind him as his predecessors, but that experience could be vital in making him the primary back. If that all transpires, he should go into 2015 not only as a candidate, but as the Heisman favorite.

A'Shawn Robinson: This is my ultimate dark horse candidate, and one who could never win it, but I could see him being in the discussion. The one player he reminds me of is N. Suh from Nebraska who not only was in the discussion, but also made it to New York. He's just bigger, stronger, and faster than all of the linemen he faces. He not only is superior physically, but he also plays with a mean streak that makes him a machine that never stops grinding. I expect him to have a break-out season this year and set the pace for the entire front 7. I think it's also very possible that he may be the highest player we have drafted in 2015. Again, I don't even know that he'll make it to New York, but I wouldn't bet against him.

Now that I've rambled on, what say you?
 

Bazza

TideFans Legend
Oct 1, 2011
35,770
21,482
187
New Smyrna Beach, Florida
Could be Coker - you just don't know at this point. No one knows. Look at how many outcomes were never predicted in recent years.

As an aside.........with the Winston situation last year - for me - the award has LOST just about ALL of it's credibility!!! :(
 

gumptider

1st Team
Sep 24, 2008
590
2
0
Statistically speaking, you would have to go with Coker if anyone. QBs are always disproportionately represented in Heisman talks. However, if it is RB from our team, I think you would have to look at a scenario where Yeldon gets hurt and Henry gets a lot more carries and makes the most of them. He would have to be 1,500 yards+ to even have a shot.
 

CHATTBRIT

Hall of Fame
Dec 3, 2003
5,769
504
237
Falling Water, TN
I don't think it will be a RB because they will be sharing RB duties. I have to go with Amari Cooper. He had an off year last year with injuries but he is an amazing athlete and, if injury free, will be a fantastic receiver and what I believe will be his last year at Alabama.
 

Bodhisattva

Hall of Fame
Aug 22, 2001
21,601
2,259
287
Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida
Could be Coker - you just don't know at this point. No one knows. Look at how many outcomes were never predicted in recent years.

As an aside.........with the Winston situation last year - for me - the award has LOST just about ALL of it's credibility!!! :(
Yep. After Scam and Rapeis Jameis they should just change the name of the Heisman to the "Thug That Got Away With It Award."
 
Last edited:

WMack4Bama

Administrator
Staff member
Nov 7, 2008
11,483
1,219
232
Tuscaloosa, AL
It'll be Coop. He'll be given more opportunities to use his natural play making abilities in this offense. TJ will have his carries eaten into by Henry & Kenyan. Although there are a ton of other options at receiver that Coop, but with a new QB, he's gotta have one go to guy (much like GMac & Julio in 2009 and AJ with Maze in 2011). Coop will be that guy. He'll have upwards of 1500 yds receiving and double digit TDs.
 

selmaborntidefan

TideFans Legend
Mar 31, 2000
36,432
29,736
287
54
It'll be Coop. He'll be given more opportunities to use his natural play making abilities in this offense. TJ will have his carries eaten into by Henry & Kenyan. Although there are a ton of other options at receiver that Coop, but with a new QB, he's gotta have one go to guy (much like GMac & Julio in 2009 and AJ with Maze in 2011). Coop will be that guy. He'll have upwards of 1500 yds receiving and double digit TDs.
Mack,

I love you, man, but this ain't ever gonna happen. Receivers cannot catch the ball unless a quarterback throws it to them. And that automatically elevates the quarterback (not the receiver) in the Heisman discussion.

Five receivers have won the award:
Larry Kelly
Leon Hart
Tim Brown
Desmond Howard
Charles Woodson

The first two guys won it back when football was almost exclusively a running game, and they played end. They got carries, plus Hart was a captain on Notre Dame which automatically gives you hype you don't deserve.

Tim Brown was a receiver but he also accumulated stats as a runner AND a kick returner. In fact, he had over 800 return yards on punts and kickoffs, and he had as many touchdowns on punt returns (3) as he did on receptions. In other words, he didn't win it as a receiver but as a specialist.

Desmond Howard might be best known as a receiver via his Heisman pose (although he's better known as a kick returning specialist with Green Bay in the NFL for that one year), but he hardly makes the case, either. Desmond rushed for 180 yards and 2 touchdowns with Michigan in 1991. Howard was actually a better RECEIVER in 1990 than the year he won the award (he had one more catch and more ypg but fewer TDs). Howard also had nearly 700 return yards in 1991, two of them for TDs.


The last receiver to win the award was Charles Woodson, and that was an outright theft of Peyton Manning. He was one of the most undeserving Heisman winners of all-time, winning primarily for ONE dazzling game against Ohio State and solely won it because his team was undefeated.

In other words - the situation simply is not there for Amari Cooper to even be anything resembling a candidate.


If a new QB runs up those numbers with Cooper, the new QB will be the beneficiary of the media hype, particularly if it's Coker, who transferred from the defending national champions and took over for the revered McCarron and "never missed a beat." Coop's chances would be much better if Blake Sims suddenly developed into a reasonable passer.

But since other criteria were what favored Brown and Howard, this is not going to happen (unless Cooper has been put on kick return duty and turns into the second coming of Devon Hester).


Sad to say it won't be anybody. But I'd rather win it all than have a Heisman winner anyway.



The award has long been a joke dependent upon who got the best hype. Want proof? Look no further than Tim Brown. Despite his great stats, Notre Dame went 8-4 and got creamed in a Cotton Bowl where Brown lost his cool (and would have been ejected had he been almost any other player on almost any other team). Brown, in fact, was kept on the bench by Lou Holtz out of fear they might retaliate against him on the next kickoff. The real Heisman winner that year should have been Don MacPherson, the quarterback of Syracuse. (Any of you wishing to complain about their schedule need to remember that they played basically the same teams as Penn State, who was a pre-season favorite to repeat, and nobody said a word).

Why didn't MacPherson win it? Because Brown got the hype and MacPherson didn't. That's all. If MacPherson had played for Notre Dame or Miami, he'd have won the Heisman in 1987, but since he played for Syracuse, he didn't have a prayer.

Naw, Mack, I appreciate your insights and usually agree with you, but as much as I love Amari Cooper - and as much as I'd love to see this happen - it has no chance of happening unless Coop is going to play special teams as well.

And now a hilarious Heisman moment to validate my point. This aired during the 1991 Orange Bowl, and it had to have been a total embarrassment for Dick Enberg, who had a huge omelet on his face when he discovered Colorado's Mike Prichard (who was not a Heisman contender) had better stats than "all-world" Rocket Ismail, who allegedly got robbed of the award that year:


 

WMack4Bama

Administrator
Staff member
Nov 7, 2008
11,483
1,219
232
Tuscaloosa, AL
Didn't say he'd win it. I said he'd be a contender, which I stand by.

I get your reasoning, and agree with you, especially since the best player on the best team (or QB on the best team) is often pushed as the Heisman guy. I just feel like our SI Dept. will start a Cooper campaign by Week 6.

Mack,

I love you, man, but this ain't ever gonna happen. Receivers cannot catch the ball unless a quarterback throws it to them. And that automatically elevates the quarterback (not the receiver) in the Heisman discussion.

Five receivers have won the award:
Larry Kelly
Leon Hart
Tim Brown
Desmond Howard
Charles Woodson

The first two guys won it back when football was almost exclusively a running game, and they played end. They got carries, plus Hart was a captain on Notre Dame which automatically gives you hype you don't deserve.

Tim Brown was a receiver but he also accumulated stats as a runner AND a kick returner. In fact, he had over 800 return yards on punts and kickoffs, and he had as many touchdowns on punt returns (3) as he did on receptions. In other words, he didn't win it as a receiver but as a specialist.

Desmond Howard might be best known as a receiver via his Heisman pose (although he's better known as a kick returning specialist with Green Bay in the NFL for that one year), but he hardly makes the case, either. Desmond rushed for 180 yards and 2 touchdowns with Michigan in 1991. Howard was actually a better RECEIVER in 1990 than the year he won the award (he had one more catch and more ypg but fewer TDs). Howard also had nearly 700 return yards in 1991, two of them for TDs.


The last receiver to win the award was Charles Woodson, and that was an outright theft of Peyton Manning. He was one of the most undeserving Heisman winners of all-time, winning primarily for ONE dazzling game against Ohio State and solely won it because his team was undefeated.

In other words - the situation simply is not there for Amari Cooper to even be anything resembling a candidate.


If a new QB runs up those numbers with Cooper, the new QB will be the beneficiary of the media hype, particularly if it's Coker, who transferred from the defending national champions and took over for the revered McCarron and "never missed a beat." Coop's chances would be much better if Blake Sims suddenly developed into a reasonable passer.

But since other criteria were what favored Brown and Howard, this is not going to happen (unless Cooper has been put on kick return duty and turns into the second coming of Devon Hester).


Sad to say it won't be anybody. But I'd rather win it all than have a Heisman winner anyway.



The award has long been a joke dependent upon who got the best hype. Want proof? Look no further than Tim Brown. Despite his great stats, Notre Dame went 8-4 and got creamed in a Cotton Bowl where Brown lost his cool (and would have been ejected had he been almost any other player on almost any other team). Brown, in fact, was kept on the bench by Lou Holtz out of fear they might retaliate against him on the next kickoff. The real Heisman winner that year should have been Don MacPherson, the quarterback of Syracuse. (Any of you wishing to complain about their schedule need to remember that they played basically the same teams as Penn State, who was a pre-season favorite to repeat, and nobody said a word).

Why didn't MacPherson win it? Because Brown got the hype and MacPherson didn't. That's all. If MacPherson had played for Notre Dame or Miami, he'd have won the Heisman in 1987, but since he played for Syracuse, he didn't have a prayer.

Naw, Mack, I appreciate your insights and usually agree with you, but as much as I love Amari Cooper - and as much as I'd love to see this happen - it has no chance of happening unless Coop is going to play special teams as well.

And now a hilarious Heisman moment to validate my point. This aired during the 1991 Orange Bowl, and it had to have been a total embarrassment for Dick Enberg, who had a huge omelet on his face when he discovered Colorado's Mike Prichard (who was not a Heisman contender) had better stats than "all-world" Rocket Ismail, who allegedly got robbed of the award that year:


 

selmaborntidefan

TideFans Legend
Mar 31, 2000
36,432
29,736
287
54
Didn't say he'd win it. I said he'd be a contender, which I stand by.

I get your reasoning, and agree with you, especially since the best player on the best team (or QB on the best team) is often pushed as the Heisman guy. I just feel like our SI Dept. will start a Cooper campaign by Week 6.
I got you. I still don't think he'll be a contender, but nothing would make me happier than to be wrong. Thanks for replying.
 

scrodz

1st Team
Jan 29, 2008
430
60
52
Baltimore, MD
The Heisman is a media creation these days. It's not about skills, it's about a candidates ability to continue generating buzz. The media just won't push the Heisman angle unless they can see more stories down the road. Look at the latest winners: Winston with his rape charges, Manziel with his arrogance, Newton with his $180k price tag. Mark Ingram isn't an exception, either; the media rode the storyline with his father like it was the Kentucky Derby.
 

gamersfuel

All-American
Jan 20, 2008
4,174
89
72
Auburn/near a cow pasture
i dont think we have anyone that will be a contender. We will lean heavily on a 2 RB rotation. I didnt see enough good out of Coker in his limited action that would make me think he'd be a heisman contender. WR's rarely win it. I think maybe next season Henry will be with the departure of Yeldon.
 

New Posts

TideFans.shop - NEW Stuff!

TideFans.shop - Get YOUR Bama Gear HERE!”></a>
<br />

<!--/ END TideFans.shop & item link \-->
<p style= Purchases made through our TideFans.shop and Amazon.com links may result in a commission being paid to TideFans.