Would you believe if CNS admitted what you just said is speculation??? He just admitted in an interview on the SEC Channel that Sims has surprised him and that he did indeed have some doubts he could develop as much as he has up to this point.
breakout year for J.Coker
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I didn't hear what he said, but it doesn't sound like any sort of specific comparison to Coker either. Until he breaks down a comparison between the two (which is extremely unlikely) we probably will never know exactly how he compared the two when he offered a scholarship (or what ever the process is) to Coker. What you said doesn't necessarily (despite your use of the word admit) indicate anything beyond Saban being impressed with how much Sims has developed.
Remember, Coker was recruited by Alabama. This was roughly the same time Sims was a running back, so Alabama's initial pursuit of Coker has absolutely nothing to do with Sims at all, nor did it mean Alabama wasn't happy with AJ either. I just keep saying people say that Saban wouldn't have brought in Coker unless he was unhappy with Sims, or that he wouldn't have brought in Coker unless it was to start right away. The truth is Alabama would have had Coker on scholarship all along had Saban got his way, and we simply can't know how that would have impacted Sims.
A: Saban has never said he was unhappy with Sims, as far as I know, and B: At no point have I heard Saban say Coker was brought in to start right away. He's said things to the contrary, which indicate that matter is still up in the air. I get, that in most circumstances you don't bring in a guy with two years of eligibility if not to start right away, but quarterback is a very different position. I'm just tired of seeing a constant spin, that has gone on since people were claiming there was no way Sims would be the backup over Ely.
I do believe Saban hoped Coker would live up to his potential and develop into the guy, but I've seen nothing at all to indicate (certainly not the account you just gave) that this is or was a done deal, or that it is a reflection on Blake Sims. It would be lunacy to not have a contingency plan for a potential one year starter at quarterback...
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CNS on Blake: "Blake has really played well and probably developed into a more consistent player at that position that I thought he could at some point in time."
You are over analyzing what I said and I'm just reporting what CNS said. It's hard not to infer that one of the reasons Coker was sought out from FSU was to be a viable option when CNS apparently had some doubts that BS would develop.
Now, apparently he's develped and there is a good competition going on. May the best player win!
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Remember, you posted that in response to what I said about Coker being brought in not being proof that Saban was unhappy with Sims. Having said that, I don't disagree with the rest of what you said. I agree with the idea of there being some doubt, but I just think it's a bit disrespectful to then come to the conclusion that Coker's arrival had to be something negative about Sims, instead of simply something positive about Coker. As per usual, I wasn't necessarily taking exception to the statement I quoted either, just to a sentiment I've seen expressed here a few times. The notion that Coker's arrival both had to be a condemnation of Sims and a sign of his Coker being destined to start.
I still kind of hope Coker is the guy, because I think Coker is best suited to run the offense Alabama wants to run. But, I also am starting to feel relatively good about the depth at the position, vs. the dread I've generally felt at the prospect of something happening to the starting QB at Alabama.
Guys, I think Coach offered Coker a Scholarship Simply because he was a better QB than what Del Rio was going to be. That's why Del Rio left for Oregon St. I don't think it had anything to do with Blake.
(On Bolded) Actually, remember you were disagreeing with "bamanix" and all I did was "report" what CNS said in an interview this afternoon which basically agreed with what bamanix was saying and you were disagreeing with him about.
FWIW, I agree with your last statement that Coker is more suited to run the type of offense we've typically seen under CNS.
FWIW, I had to go to page 2 of the board to find this thread so I could post this info in what I thought was an appropriate thread about Jake Coker.
It continues to confuse me why people take the time to post in a thread and then complain about what is being discussed when they didn't even have to open the thread to begin with.
I agree.
Let's see..."who will be our starting QB?" is the biggest topic in Alabama football right now.
but let's not talk about it.
I am only sick of Coker is the starter and Sims is terrible" talk. I have had enough of the Coker for Heisman talk and Coker is the greatest thing in the history of ever talk (mainly coming from media types).I agree.
Let's see..."who will be our starting QB?" is the biggest topic in Alabama football right now.
but let's not talk about it.
As usual.
That being said, I'm content with waiting and seeing what Coker does. I think he'll do somewhere between good and great. I'm just not expecting the world and I don't think it's fair to Coker to expect that from him. But as they, it is what it is. .. sigh .. anyhoo, I am so looking forward to this season. It will be exciting no matter what.
It's been said previously, but I just can't fathom that our coaching staff would bring in a guy like Coker (who at one time was rumored to have a parent shopping him only to schools that would "guarantee" that he'd be the starting QB upon transfer) without feeling like we had a significant need at the QB position. If you look at the guys who have transferred to UA since Nick has been here - both FBS transfers and JUCO transfers - I'll bet the percentage of those guys who were starters or heavy contributors from day one is extremely high, maybe even 100%. I'm thinking of guys like Colin Peek, Jesse Williams, James Carpenter, DeQuan Menzie, Deion Belue, etc. Coker fits that profile. There's just no precedent for a guy like Coker arriving on campus and then riding the bench.
All due respect to Blake Sims, who has been a consummate team player. But the mere presence of Coker on our roster suggests that Nick felt that we didn't have a viable QB for 2014 prior to his arrival. If, barring injury, Coker doesn't start and get the lion's share of the snaps, it will be a monumental upset. I think all of this stuff being floated by the coaching staff about a real, sincere competition is just standard protocol to keep team and player morale sustainable.
All that aside, I think the expectations for Coker being floated by some fans and media outlets are insane. The guy has zero college starting experience and really not a whole lot of game experience in general. I think a season like McCarron's first one in 2011 is a much more likely outcome for Coker than a Heisman campaign, and frankly this team can still win a championship with that kind of performance, barring a rash of injuries.
Just my opinion. I really don't care who starts at QB as long as they're not an outright liability, because I think this team can win a lot of games with the consummate "game manager".
All due respect to Blake Sims, who has been a consummate team player. But the mere presence of Coker on our roster suggests that Nick felt that we didn't have a viable QB for 2014 prior to his arrival. If, barring injury, Coker doesn't start and get the lion's share of the snaps, it will be a monumental upset. I think all of this stuff being floated by the coaching staff about a real, sincere competition is just standard protocol to keep team and player morale sustainable.
All that aside, I think the expectations for Coker being floated by some fans and media outlets are insane. The guy has zero college starting experience and really not a whole lot of game experience in general. I think a season like McCarron's first one in 2011 is a much more likely outcome for Coker than a Heisman campaign, and frankly this team can still win a championship with that kind of performance, barring a rash of injuries.
Just my opinion. I really don't care who starts at QB as long as they're not an outright liability, because I think this team can win a lot of games with the consummate "game manager".
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