I heard Travis Haney from ESPN today on Finebaums show, that "dispite what Saban says", Coker will have a breakout year....in fact, he has him somewhat high. I couldn't read his blog because I'm not an"insider".
breakout year for J.Coker
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If going from playing no meaningful snaps to at least playing some meaningful snaps counts as a breakout, then I agree. Otherwise its folly to try and prognosticate.
In his insider blog he basically has him ranked #1 in his Top 50 Breakout players of 2014 and says he will be this year's Winston. He says he might be so good that this will be his only year with us and then it's off to the NFL. He also says that Saban is being overly diplomatic in discussing the QB situation and that it's obvious that Coker is the 'guy'.
Sidenote: He has LSU's Fournette as the #2 Breakout player of 2014.
Sidenote: He has LSU's Fournette as the #2 Breakout player of 2014.
If it turns out that Coker is indeed the breakout player of the year, it would be wonderful, because that would obviously translate into Bama probably being virtually unstoppable on offense if the O-Line comes around.
At the same time, I can't help but wonder what this guy is basing his prediction on. I mean, the talk about the potential is there, but the history of results and performance isn't.
Maybe his crystal ball will be right. Who knows?
I'll say this though---If Fournette stays healthy in fall camp, Jake's going to have to be mighty mighty good as a QB to beat him out as breakout player of the year.
That kid is a Bo Jackson clone.
sip
At the same time, I can't help but wonder what this guy is basing his prediction on. I mean, the talk about the potential is there, but the history of results and performance isn't.
Maybe his crystal ball will be right. Who knows?
I'll say this though---If Fournette stays healthy in fall camp, Jake's going to have to be mighty mighty good as a QB to beat him out as breakout player of the year.
That kid is a Bo Jackson clone.
sip
Someone needs to block this thread on Sip's computer.
Edit: just noticed Sip was already replying while I was typing. Man, that is 2 threads I am slow on.
Edit: just noticed Sip was already replying while I was typing. Man, that is 2 threads I am slow on.
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Here is the article for reference.
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-...lead-top-50-breakout-players-college-football
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-...lead-top-50-breakout-players-college-football
i cant figure it out either. hope he can get better but from what i saw of his FSU garbage time and throwing in general, he has a ways to go on his accuracy.
How is LF a Bo Jackson clone? Why so much hype? Based on what? What has he done? I mean every running back on LSU roster should get a chance to play first. What about the other running backs who have been through the offseason conditioning program?? LF has never played a snap of college football. You must be basing it off his physical stature and the fact that he has all the physical tools to be successful. Oh, but we can't use the same logic on why JC might be good. All makes sense now lol
You're a clever fox, but I'm glad you put the smiley face after that. Looking forward to Sip's resonse.How is LF a Bo Jackson clone? Why so much hype? Based on what? What has he done? I mean every running back on LSU roster should get a chance to play first. What about the other running backs who have been through the offseason conditioning program?? LF has never played a snap of college football. You must be basing it off his physical stature and the fact that he has all the physical tools to be successful. Oh, but we can't use the same logic on why JC might be good. All makes sense now lol
he's basing a lot on info from Jimbo Fisher.Winston didn't beat Coker out until August (per Travis Haney).
I have never, ever seen a player so hyped by the media before he took a single snap. This is off the wall crazy. I don't care who wins the battle...will support whomever because they are our QB. But to be on Heisman lists, etc. is insane.
What would be crazier would be if Sims were to win the job, and then have a 5 star season, win the SEC POW and Heisman. Now, that would be icing on the cake for me as I am really tired of sportswriters who don't have a clue!
What would be crazier would be if Sims were to win the job, and then have a 5 star season, win the SEC POW and Heisman. Now, that would be icing on the cake for me as I am really tired of sportswriters who don't have a clue!
Also to be fair to Haney he did have Winston #3 on the list last year and here is the write up from his 2013 article(Being over a year old it's not really Premium anymore):
3. Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State Seminoles
If there is a Johnny Manziel-type, or at least a Marcus Mariota in this year’s bunch, Winston is the guy. It’s a big-time program. There is a lot of infrastructure around him, budding receivers and good experience at back and along the O-line. Then there’s Winston’s prodigious talent.
When I asked head coach Jimbo Fisher about Winston, it was obvious he wanted to pump the brakes on the hype. That’s understandable for a player yet to take a snap, but still ...
“He’s a player who has all the tools,” Fisher said, measuring his words. “He’s intelligent and instinctive. He learned and grew [during his redshirt year], and he’s getting ready and preparing now to play.”
I asked Fisher how Winston compares to E.J. Manuel, who in the end was liked more by NFL scouts than college coaches who told me they were never sure if he was a consistent, proven winner. “Well, E.J. was the 16th pick in the draft,” Fisher said. “I hope [Winston] ends up that way.”
Will Coker light it up this year? I don't know any more than the rest of you but he IS getting a lot of compliments across the board from a lot of analysts and coaches that is on par with Winston's hype last year....maybe even moreso oddly. If I'm a betting man Coker is our starter from the 1st snap and ends the year as the #1 SEC QB....JMHO of course.
3. Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State Seminoles
If there is a Johnny Manziel-type, or at least a Marcus Mariota in this year’s bunch, Winston is the guy. It’s a big-time program. There is a lot of infrastructure around him, budding receivers and good experience at back and along the O-line. Then there’s Winston’s prodigious talent.
When I asked head coach Jimbo Fisher about Winston, it was obvious he wanted to pump the brakes on the hype. That’s understandable for a player yet to take a snap, but still ...
“He’s a player who has all the tools,” Fisher said, measuring his words. “He’s intelligent and instinctive. He learned and grew [during his redshirt year], and he’s getting ready and preparing now to play.”
I asked Fisher how Winston compares to E.J. Manuel, who in the end was liked more by NFL scouts than college coaches who told me they were never sure if he was a consistent, proven winner. “Well, E.J. was the 16th pick in the draft,” Fisher said. “I hope [Winston] ends up that way.”
Will Coker light it up this year? I don't know any more than the rest of you but he IS getting a lot of compliments across the board from a lot of analysts and coaches that is on par with Winston's hype last year....maybe even moreso oddly. If I'm a betting man Coker is our starter from the 1st snap and ends the year as the #1 SEC QB....JMHO of course.
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