Bama vs. WVU - Postgame Thread

JustNeedMe81 · Aug 30, 2014

I wish everyone would just enjoy the win... None of us are a coach, and If you watch the replay of the game, you'll see some things that stood out to me, andit wasn'talways their fault.

Alasippi · Aug 30, 2014

TouchThatThang said:
I agree, Sip, though I would add last year's team had just as far to go.

Our front seven is not as aggressive as they could be because of the way they're coached. We have the best athletes there in the nation and it's really not close, but you wouldn't know it by watching them play. At some point I wish CNS would just let great athletes be great athletes. I think he's going to have to minimize the cerebral aspects of his approach if he's going to duplicate the success of the first half of his career at Bama.

yep...take the reigns off and let em play.....

cuda.1973 · Aug 30, 2014

GrayTide said:
snip................. some things never change.

Like SNASS?

Alasippi · Aug 30, 2014

230kv_barehand said:
Yep that's how I missed the 2nd punt then. Just looked up his stats and he still averaged 50 per punt. Nice job on his first outing. Griffith was solid too.

Griffith was the difference in the game! He was incredible. sip

81usaf92 · Aug 30, 2014

TouchThatThang said:
I agree, Sip, though I would add last year's team had just as far to go.

Our front seven is not as aggressive as they could be because of the way they're coached. We have the best athletes there in the nation and it's really not close, but you wouldn't know it by watching them play. At some point I wish CNS would just let great athletes be great athletes. I think he's going to have to minimize the cerebral aspects of his approach if he's going to duplicate the success of the first half of his career at Bama.

But also you have to add trickett was on fire and made very quick and smart decisions.

deliveryman35 · Aug 30, 2014

Alasippi said:
Without question. Cyrus and Bradley were recruited as wide receivers, and that's what they are.
They can't cover.
It would help if our defensive line actually rushed the passer, but it looks like our defense is designed to catch the blocks and react, rather than attack.
I'm never going to understand that. Why play it so safe when you supposedly have superior athletes?
Today I was impressed by the new punter, Adam Griffith, T.J., and the offensive line.
Those big guys did pretty good.
Other than that we looked pretty darn average. For the record, I thought the defense absolutely stunk.
I found myself hoping that West Virginia would screw up rather than knowing we'd stop them.
Fortunately, they did.
It's a first game, but I've never seen a team with so far to go in the Saban era.
We're not good, and we're a long way from it.
sip

Best assessment that I've read. Georgia and TAMU look to be the best in the conference to me at this point in time.

tusks_n_raider · Aug 30, 2014

deliveryman35 said:
Best assessment that I've read. Georgia and TAMU look to be the best in the conference to me at this point in time.

I'd say that's a very fair statement right now and both should be in the Top 10.

KrAzY3 · Aug 30, 2014

Just a reminder, in the first game last year, AJ was 10/23 with 1 TD and 1 INT against a team that was a 7-6 ACC team the year before. I believe the offense managed only 14 points.

I'm not sure how you can really look at this situation, given a first time starter at QB and a new offensive coordinator and really be more concerned than you were after that game last year.

bamanut_aj · Aug 30, 2014

Very pleased with Sims and the offense. Yes, would like to see the passing game go more vertical, but I remember at least 3 times that Sims looked long, then checked down. Don't know if they were covered, or if he just wasn't comfortable, but whatever the case, he made safe throws. I REALLY wanna see more Howard, too. I fully expected to see him used as Sims' safety valve.

Still shaking my head about the defense

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RTR91 · Aug 30, 2014

formersoldier71 said:
Someone recently said here that Sylve didn't look like a WR playing CB anymore... Have to disagree.

I think RTO was referencing Cyrus when he made that comment, not Bradley.

BamaJama17 said:
Yup more games mean more opportunities.

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Not what CrimsonForce was meaning. He was saying we aren't going to see the defensive slugfests we saw 10 years ago. We are going to give up some points because of the offensive strategies.

My take on the game:

1. We ran 82 plays but held WVU to 69. Who would have expected that?
2. DL didn't get much pressure on Trickett, but Holgo made sure of that by calling quick passes.
3. The OL did well. Not sure about Leon's holding calls.
4. Blake played well. As others have said, folks wouldn't criticize if Christion makes that catch. Want to say he had to wait on the ball? Cool. AJ made WRs wait on passes, too.

TouchThatThang · Aug 30, 2014

81usaf92 said:
But also you have to add trickett was on fire and made very quick and smart decisions.

We've played more QB's that are "on fire" over the past five seasons than anyone else. It's time to quit using that excuse. Period. A lot of QBs look good when you give them all day to throw and you've got DBs that don't turn around. Seriously though, we've got to drop that "but such-and-such QB played the game of his life" excuse. Our problems on defense had a lot to do with the plethora of QBs who've played "the game of their life" against us in the past four seasons.

Power Eye · Aug 30, 2014

I walked away from the game today with much the same feeling as the win over VA Tech last year. The big difference is I had full faith in McCarron and I don't in Sims. I actually thought he played ok. He made several nice throws and had some good escapes, but obviously had a few bad throws. The real concern I have is how will he perform against the likes of Florida and Ole Miss, much less the likes of A&M, LSU and Auburn.

BamaFanInTally · Aug 30, 2014

Looking at the replay of some of the highlights I'm not as concerned about the pash rush. Trickett was getting rid of the ball pretty quick.

RTR91 · Aug 30, 2014

TouchThatThang said:
We've played more QB's that are "on fire" over the past five seasons than anyone else. It's time to quit using that excuse. Period. A lot of QBs look good when you give them all day to throw and you've got DBs that don't turn around. Seriously though, we've got to drop that "but such-and-such QB played the game of his life" excuse. Our problems on defense had a lot to do with the plethora of QBs who've played "the game of their life" against us in the past four seasons.

So you just want to completely ignore the stats to suggest that? Cool.

KrAzY3 · Aug 30, 2014

Power Eye said:
I walked away from the game today with much the same feeling as the win over VA Tech last year. The big difference is I had full faith in McCarron and I don't in Sims

Here's the thing though, in terms of tangibles, there were so many more reasons to be worried about the VT game last year. Sure, I guess we think about VT as being better, but they were 7-6 the year before in a conference full of basketball schools.

Alabama had 206 yards, VT had 212 yards. Alabama's offense had 14 points, VT's offense had 10.

This game? Alabama had 538 yards, West Virginia had 393. Alabama's offense had 33 points, West Virginia's offense had 16.

The relevant statistics were obscured by the kick return touchdowns, and that score on defense. You add those to this game, and it's 54-23 and people would feel a lot different, right? The truth is, simply based on results, there's more reasons to feel good about this game than the VT game last year.

Edit:

TouchThatThang said:
We've played more QB's that are "on fire" over the past five seasons than anyone else. It's time to quit using that excuse.

It's the truth. It pretty much takes a QB playing an amazing game to beat Alabama. Alabama has won a vast majority of their games, of the ones they lost, it took a great QB performance. That's because most of the time Alabama is the best team on the field. It takes something special to beat them.

TouchThatThang · Aug 30, 2014

RTR91 said:
So you just want to completely ignore the stats to suggest that? Cool.

We've had more QBs who weren't great before they played us break out and look like NFL-caliber QBs than most other teams. Yes, we have great pass efficiency stats over the years. We pad our passing efficiency stats against cupcakes the same way Oregon pads their total offense against cupcakes.

I'm saying our problems on defense have everything to do with these QBs breaking out against. Lately our defense makes QBs comfortable.

92tide · Aug 30, 2014

TouchThatThang said:
We've had more QBs who weren't great before they played us break out and look like NFL-caliber QBs than most other teams. Yes, we have great pass efficiency stats over the years. We pad our passing efficiency stats against cupcakes the same way Oregon pads their total offense against cupcakes.

I'm saying our problems on defense have everything to do with these QBs breaking out against. Lately our defense makes QBs comfortable.

do you realize what our record is over the past 6 years?

crimsonaudio · Aug 30, 2014

92tide said:
do you realize what our record is over the past 6 years?

We have to have lost like 20 games, based on what I'm reading. Am I right?

gamersfuel · Aug 30, 2014

TouchThatThang said:
We've played more QB's that are "on fire" over the past five seasons than anyone else. It's time to quit using that excuse. Period. A lot of QBs look good when you give them all day to throw and you've got DBs that don't turn around. Seriously though, we've got to drop that "but such-and-such QB played the game of his life" excuse. Our problems on defense had a lot to do with the plethora of QBs who've played "the game of their life" against us in the past four seasons.

lot's of truth in that post

TouchThatThang · Aug 30, 2014

KrAzY3 said:
Here's the thing though, in terms of tangibles, there were so many more reasons to be worried about the VT game last year. Sure, I guess we think about VT as being better, but they were 7-6 the year before in a conference full of basketball schools.

Alabama had 206 yards, VT had 212 yards. Alabama's offense had 14 points, VT's offense had 10.

This game? Alabama had 538 yards, West Virginia had 393. Alabama's offense had 33 points, West Virginia's offense had 16.

The relevant statistics were obscured by the kick return touchdowns, and that score on defense. You add those to this game, and it's 54-23 and people would feel a lot different, right? The truth is, simply based on results, there's more reasons to feel good about this game than the VT game last year.

Edit:

It's the truth. It pretty much takes a QB playing an amazing game to beat Alabama. Alabama has won a vast majority of their games, of the ones they lost, it took a great QB performance. That's because most of the time Alabama is the best team on the field. It takes something special to beat them.

All the QBs who've had those "amazing games"...wouldn't have had them if we had pressured the QB consistently. In many cases DB play could've been better as well.

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