It's not just DB's that are the problem. We don't have a Cody or Chapman type at NG which is critical to the 3-4 defense. A lot of things feed off of good NG play with CNS's defense, stopping the run and pass rush, which helps the DB's and LB's.
Buzzard, it's as if you're living in my brain...SPOT ON! The Head Ball Coach's (Saban) reluctance to be flexible enough to deal with the changing landscape (that is offensive HUNH Spread college football) is a major issue. Hate to rain on the cheerleader's parade. However, I still would not trade him for anyone in the land. RTR!I hate to break it to some of y'all but the HUNH is what's causing the problems. Did we have these issues before teams started running the HUNH? The DL isn't able to get any consistent pressure because they tire out. Once you run five or six plays at rapid fire pace they drastically slow down. That's the goal of the HUNH. The cb's don't have time to not only get ready but to read the defense are even get the defensive call. So basically they are rendered to sandlot style football.
The problems we are having are exactly what the HUNH's are designed to do and they're working to perfection. It is time to stop denying it.
I agree and would also add the DL still needs to affect the QB on every play which in turn will help the CBs.
The same guy was coaching DBs before, during and after Pruitt...If we are questioning DB play, a fair question is was Jeremy Pruitt a big loss?
CJP was a significant loss, but not because of DB play.The same guy was coaching DBs before, during and after Pruitt...
It's like Saban said a year or so ago and I've quoted several time (paraphrasing), "Is this really what's good for the sport? Is this really where you want to see it go?"I hate to break it to some of y'all but the HUNH is what's causing the problems. Did we have these issues before teams started running the HUNH? The DL isn't able to get any consistent pressure because they tire out. Once you run five or six plays at rapid fire pace they drastically slow down. That's the goal of the HUNH. The cb's don't have time to not only get ready but to read the defense are even get the defensive call. So basically they are rendered to sandlot style football.
Those guys would just about die on the field against the HUNH.It's not just DB's that are the problem. We don't have a Cody or Chapman type at NG which is critical to the 3-4 defense. A lot of things feed off of good NG play with CNS's defense, stopping the run and pass rush, which helps the DB's and LB's.
Yep, things have changed dramatically in the last 3 or 4 years, and its only going to get worse under the current clock rules. Mississippi State ran nearly 80 plays Sat night, and AU, TAMU, OM, and UT are all running fast paced offenses this year. Even we ran a lot more plays than we normally do Sat night (82).Those guys would just about die on the field against the HUNH.
I don't either. Unfortunately, It may take an extreme , like a decade of increased post football brain injuries. They have already linked CTE with non concussive repeated brain trauma like the cumulative effects of normal hits on every play. stands to reason if you have more plays there will be more risk. 25% more plays is like an extra season every 4 years.It's like Saban said a year or so ago and I've quoted several time (paraphrasing), "Is this really what's good for the sport? Is this really where you want to see it go?"
I've said it several times, but I don't enjoy watching these HUNH teams - the completely remove the 'thinking' part of the game that makes it so intriguing to me. If people want basketball-on-grass, keep it up - people like me will eventually stop watching.
He was listed as DB coach, ()thus my questionThe same guy was coaching DBs before, during and after Pruitt...
The receiver he is covering is never open. He can do it himself without any need of a double team.Would somebody be kind enough to explain to me what "lock down corner" means?
Obviously, there is something that our corners are not doing that they should be doing, but I don't know the mechanics of football well enough to know what that something is.
Thanks!
wv was killing us with blocks on those screens, especially earlyThe receiver he is covering is never open. He can do it himself without any need of a double team.
I don't think the coverage aspect of the corners is the problem with most HUNH teams, especially the run based ones like Auburn. They have to be able to fight off blocks and make tackles on the edge in space.
Absolutely, and that's going to remain a problem, I'm afraid, as we play Ole Miss, A&M, and especially Auburn.wv was killing us with blocks on those screens, especially early
Trickett's past numbers were misleading. He is probably the 2nd or 3rd best qb in the big12 and probably will be the best or a close 2nd qb we will see all year. A lot of the problems we had with him was that he was capable of making snap decisions and he had great pocket prescense. Granted our cbs didn't play particularly well and our d line didn't get in his face often enough, but you got to give the man his props and he might of only missed one or two passes if not for his butter fingered receivers.Without reading five pages, I'll just cut to the chase and say OP is correct.
Real problem that we have had -- and continue to have -- is that our cornerback recruiting basically went in the tank after we signed Dee Milliner. You basically go from the signing of Dee Milliner in 2009 to the signing of Eddie Jackson in 2013 (and, really, Brown and Humphrey this past year), and you get almost nothing at cornerback, just a couple of guys who never really lived up to their thought-to-be potential and a whole lot of "athlete" types that haven't turned into high-level cornerbacks.
That might have been fine 30 years ago, but not in this day and age. If you've got problems at cornerback in the modern game, you are going to be exposed very badly and your defense is giving up a lot of yards and points. And that's basically where we are at now. When you get career no-names who suddenly start showing up and easily throwing for 350+ against you, "scheme," regardless of how loosely you define that, is typically the least of your problems.
This is the problem exactly. If CB play comes back to where it was several years ago it doesn't fix everything, but it certainly helps. Bama has never gotten great push from the DL rushing the passer. Upshaw and Dareus are the only exceptions in the Saban era, and the defense was just fine. The issue is at CB. Defensive line play can help cover that up by putting pressure on the QB, but it doesn't fix the problem, and hopefully Jackson, Brown, and Humphrey can fix it soon.Without reading five pages, I'll just cut to the chase and say OP is correct.
Real problem that we have had -- and continue to have -- is that our cornerback recruiting basically went in the tank after we signed Dee Milliner. You basically go from the signing of Dee Milliner in 2009 to the signing of Eddie Jackson in 2013 (and, really, Brown and Humphrey this past year), and you get almost nothing at cornerback, just a couple of guys who never really lived up to their thought-to-be potential and a whole lot of "athlete" types that haven't turned into high-level cornerbacks.
That might have been fine 30 years ago, but not in this day and age. If you've got problems at cornerback in the modern game, you are going to be exposed very badly and your defense is giving up a lot of yards and points. And that's basically where we are at now. When you get career no-names who suddenly start showing up and easily throwing for 350+ against you, "scheme," regardless of how loosely you define that, is typically the least of your problems.