I was just observing that since we started this year under Kiffen's offense, that I haven't seen him use his tight ends once in the passing game. Really to me, everythings been kinda vanilla. I'm not talking about being on the field for blocking support either. I wonder if we'll see them get more action in the SMU game this weekend or is he saving Florida some film study by not having any pass plays go to them that they can watch. He might not want anyone seeing that part of our Offense until we start SEC play. I don't know, but OJ Howard is too great a weapon not to be targeted at least 4-5 times a game. And Vogler also. Also could we see Fowler line up at that position. I don't know. But this got me thinking, I haven't seen any TE action. And we need to use those guys. Whatcha think?
Are we saving our Tight ends?
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Man its too early to bring this up. We already discussed this in other threads. We're taking what defense gives us. No need to open up plagbooks. Be patient
The tight ends will come into play especially if safeties move up to stop the run an screen passes. You will see TE down the seams, and if the team overloads to one side expecting run or screen pass you will see play action boot with TE in the flat. We have not had it because defenses have not pressed yet. It is coming and it will be... Wait for it, wait for it....LEGENDARY lol
saving them? I think it is more of a case of training QB's in play calling, formations, pre snap reads and the nuances of being a D1 QB in a pro set offense than anything. As the QB's get more comfortable, more pages will get turned in the playbook.
Watch the WVU game and tell me we didn't want to utilize the TEs. When Blake rolled out and a TE attempted to get into the flats for a dump off, a WVU DE or LB grabbed him to prevent the route.
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Vogler addressed this yesterday:
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2014/09/alabama_tight_ends_oj_howard.html
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/index.ssf/2014/09/alabama_tight_ends_oj_howard.html
I guess I said everything the wrong way, didn't mean we weren't trying to utilize them the right way, were we not using them as much to maybe not let SEC competition see any formations that they run or such. That's all I meant....and then I read that post that Tidefan in AU put up. Thank you. So forgive me for asking.....
when I was in high school, we had plays that coaches would 'keep off film' specifically for certain teams. I have to think this is a pretty common thing for all coaches to do.
I really would like to see OJ Howard get a couple of those receptions and get more involved in the passing game. But I guess it's kinda hard to come off Number 9 when he keeps coming through for us.
fair question, and you are forgiven.
i think the more 'exotic' plays will come in a few weeks. Coker had 3 plays targeting the TE's against FAU
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I would think the tight ends would benefit from catching a few balls live in a game to get the experience.
That's the argument we hear about the quarterbacks, it seems like it would be the same for the tight ends.
That's the argument we hear about the quarterbacks, it seems like it would be the same for the tight ends.
it it is worth noting that OJ caught very few passes last year when we had the most experienced pro set college quarterback in America. Either the tight end just isn't a consistent priority target in our scheme, or OJ, despite his obvious physical gifts, is still figuring out the college game.
At some point a LB will make the wrong choice and the TE will shred the seam. They have been open but usually aren't the first read. They'll get it.
When Cooper is open enough to get 25 catches in 2 games, the TE's aren't a high priority. As the competition gets better and the QBs are forced to move beyond the first option more frequently, I think you'll see the TEs more involved.
I don't if you're old enough to remember Bart Kraut (TE in the late 70s) but he averaged about 30 yards per reception. At some point the safetys will roll and we'll torch somebody.
That seems to be the popular rumor going around right now, which tells me that it's probably not true.
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