Jimbo Fisher is not in charge at FSU

that's why I wouldn't be surpised to see Fisher leaving after this season. Either to NFL or to another job within conference.

Are you saying he will be asked to resign or leave on his own? How much is making this year?

ptw1961 said:

But Jimbo has also come off as extremely disingenuous in interviews this week. It is almost embarrassing to listen to him. I think he is part of the problem as well. I know many talk highly of his character and all- but I just do not see it. He is either being controlled or this is who he really is- I am just not sure.

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Let me help.

If he won't stand for what he says he believes in now when the pressure is on, then he really doesn't believe in what he says he believes in. Also, if he won't stand for what he says he believes in where he is now, he wouldn't stand for it somewhere else if he left. You don't change your character by leaving. Your character goes with you if you leave with nothing else.

Once you've agreed to let the skunks spray your house, you might as well live with the skunks. You will still smell like a skunk if you leave, and the next household may not tolerate it.

CJF has inarguably agreed to the JW circus proceedings. Regardless of his self-justifications, he now and forever is culpable. IOW, there is no need for confusion. This is who he really is.

JustNeedMe81 said:

that's why I wouldn't be surpised to see Fisher leaving after this season. Either to NFL or to another job within conference.

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Fisher won't leave and they won't fire him... They would be stupid to do that... With that said, I think Fisher has more control of the program that some may think. I mean he just won a national title and has resurrected their program.. I would think that he could basically call the shots... As one of my old bosses once told me, if you're bringing in big money for the company, you can basically call your shots. It's like that in practically any business. Nope, Jimbo made this decision and he made a bad one.

tungi01 said:

Fisher won't leave and they won't fire him... They would be stupid to do that... With that said, I think Fisher has more control of the program that some may think. I mean he just won a national title and has resurrected their program.. I would think that he could basically call the shots... As one of my old bosses once told me, if you're bringing in big money for the company, you can basically call your shots. It's like that in practically any business. Nope, Jimbo made this decision and he made a bad one.

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Just like Chizik did at Auburn?

bamachile said:

Let me help.

If he won't stand for what he says he believes in now when the pressure is on, then he really doesn't believe in what he says he believes in. Also, if he won't stand for what he says he believes in where he is now, he wouldn't stand for it somewhere else if he left. You don't change your character by leaving. Your character goes with you if you leave with nothing else.

Once you've agreed to let the skunks spray your house, you might as well live with the skunks. You will still smell like a skunk if you leave, and the next household may not tolerate it.

CJF has inarguably agreed to the JW circus proceedings. Regardless of his self-justifications, he now and forever is culpable. IOW, there is no need for confusion. This is who he really is.

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That just shows us how strong Saban really is.

CrimsonChuck said:

Just like Chizik did at Auburn?

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Good one.. LOL...

"He was just having fun." - Jimbo Fisher commenting on Jameis' latest offense to SiriusXM College Radio 9/18/14

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IMO, Jimbo is all about the win and not about the players' development off of the field.

Unless they hire a full-time babysitter for this kid, I don't think this is the last incident. You might have been able to cover this stuff up before cell phones, but not know. Heck, you may have found out the latest before anyone in the AD knew about it.

Maybe do like they did with Cam, acknowledge this is his last season, get him enrolled in nothing but on-line courses, keep him off campus, hold everyone's grades till after your January bowl game, and hire some goons to sit on him, literally if that is what it takes.

Im saying, when things get worse in term of off field issues, he may get tired and leave. he hasn't done enough to say I can get comfortable here... there has been time where he looks uncomfortable in the program because of management above him.

bamachile said:

Let me help.

If he won't stand for what he says he believes in now when the pressure is on, then he really doesn't believe in what he says he believes in. Also, if he won't stand for what he says he believes in where he is now, he wouldn't stand for it somewhere else if he left. You don't change your character by leaving. Your character goes with you if you leave with nothing else.

Once you've agreed to let the skunks spray your house, you might as well live with the skunks. You will still smell like a skunk if you leave, and the next household may not tolerate it.

CJF has inarguably agreed to the JW circus proceedings. Regardless of his self-justifications, he now and forever is culpable. IOW, there is no need for confusion. This is who he really is.

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Bingo!

Fisher is obviously in charge at FSU since he is the HC. The responsibility and credit falls with him. At FSU is all goes back to the Bobby Bowden "policy" that you should not suspend a player if it hurts the team.

diddy Bowden taught him well.

derek4tide said:

IMO, Jimbo is all about the win and not about the players' development off of the field.

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And this will be his downfall. Recruiting will be hurt since most parents are not going to like the prisoners running the prison. Our recruiting is so successful due to the fact parents know Saban and staff will not tolerate this type behavior. I think Jimbo has lost this team and they will lose 1-2 games in a weak ACC due to it.

If you go back and read his PC yesterday I think he pretty much states the suspension came from over his head - meaning either the AD or the President. Now why you, if your Jimbo, would you not take ownership of the suspension so as to at least appear to have measure of integrity (even if the suspension was inadequate) and take credit for it. But no he passed the buck. I think we can clearly see from the last year where Jimbo stands on his undeniable and laughably ignorant support of JW. Seriously the only reason you would put up with this kind of behavior from one of your players is if he is getting or got something under the table. Regardless if you are struggling financially, FSU administration ought to recognize you cant harbor this kind of behavior nowadays. If anything else comes out about JW, it could seriously undermine Jimbo's ability to lead the program going forward.

Not every head coach is in charge ... Mack Brown. Be that as it may, I don't know who is calling the shots at FSU, but the responsibility is on CJF.

russtang said:

diddy Bowden taught him well.

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Sort of what I was thinking. They were known as "Free Shoes University" long before Jimbo took over from Diddy. Jimbo is just minding the store.

ValuJet said:

Sort of what I was thinking. They were known as "Free Shoes University" long before Jimbo took over from Diddy. Jimbo is just minding the store.

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I'm sure the decisions are being made above his head. Of course that's not saying much.

I don't understand how people can live their lives without integrity, but the whole Winston saga clearly demonstrates that most people in our society are happy to put on blinders when it is convenient. I am more saddened by that than I am the acts themselves.