TIDE-HSV said:

I'm afraid that the terrible tearing of the social fabric that occurred during the civil wars has played a big part in the disaster. They just don't trust anyone...

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it is an understandable sentiment, based on what i heard

92tide said:

it is an understandable sentiment, based on what i heard

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Charles Taylor was more brutal, but IMO Samuel Doe - along with Rafael Trujillo - has always been the classic example of the duplicitous nature of CIA support. Doe's fall was a defining event in my political outlook as it was through his fall that I first grasped how thoroughly untrustworthy America could be viewed in the court of foreign opinion, especially by third-world nations. It was from this awakening that I began to lean toward a more hands off (or isolationist, if you prefer) policy. I'm not dogmatic about that stance, but it remains my default.

bamachile said:

Charles Taylor was more brutal, but IMO Samuel Doe - along with Rafael Trujillo - has always been the classic example of the duplicitous nature of CIA support. Doe's fall was a defining event in my political outlook as it was through his fall that I first grasped how thoroughly untrustworthy America could be viewed in the court of foreign opinion, especially by third-world nations. It was from this awakening that I began to lean toward a more hands off (or isolationist, if you prefer) policy. I'm not dogmatic about that stance, but it remains my default.

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Taylor supported the RUF in Sierra Leone. Sick, sick people.

92tide said:

at our previous church, we had two large families who had escaped the brutality of the taylor regime. it sounded horrific

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I still always think of Converse All Stars.

Liberian born, US professor tells Liberians that US manufactured Ebola.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...he-u-s-manufactured-ebola-outbreak/?tid=sm_fb

Yeah, this will help our folks there.

And now, in what may plant further seeds of mistrust and suspicion, a major Liberian newspaper, the Daily Observer, has published an article by a Liberian-born faculty member of a U.S. university implying the epidemic is the result of bioterrorism experiments conducted by the United States Department of Defense, among others.

And while some commenting on the article were critical, the number who praised it was telling. “They are using” Ebola, wrote one, “for culling the world population mainly Africa for the…purpose of gaining control of the Africans resources criminally.”

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Displaced Bama Fan said:

Liberian born, US professor tells Liberians that US manufactured Ebola.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...he-u-s-manufactured-ebola-outbreak/?tid=sm_fb

Yeah, this will help our folks there.

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First it was Aids(if I spelled it wrong I'm sorry)and now its Ebola. People are misleading these poor people to think the wrong thing is doing more harm then anything. In other words they are doing what they say the United States is.

How long will it before this scare hits the States?

I think the death rate would not be as high here due to better living conditions and health care in general, but it could still be pretty bad.

TIDE-HSV said:

How many synonyms are there for "insane?"

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I read the article and the article linked in the article.
Not saying the guy is wrong, but his evidence is skimpy. I'm sure Detrick & CDC have been doing research on how best to treat/limit the sprwad of Ebola.
The development of the virus seems far-fetched.
Plus, I seriously doubt any scientist of any nation would willingly and deliberately infect a human subject, and then keep that secret.

Tidewater said:

Plus, I seriously doubt any scientist of any nation would willingly and deliberately infect a human subject, and then keep that secret.

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ahem....tuskegee....syphilis. last time i checked no one went to jail for that one.

gmart74 said:

ahem....tuskegee....syphilis. last time i checked no one went to jail for that one.

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True but I have a hard time believing every scientist associated would keep it a secret. Somebody would strike a book deal.

Originally Posted by Tidewater

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Plus, I seriously doubt any scientist of any nation would willingly and deliberately infect a human subject, and then keep that secret.

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You have more faith in scientists than I do.

gmart74 said:

ahem....tuskegee....syphilis. last time i checked no one went to jail for that one.

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You're right again gmart.

Military/CIA LSD experiments.
http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/cia-lsd.htm

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/high-anxiety-lsd-in-the-cold-war


Fake vaccination program conducted by the CIA in Pakistan.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/11/cia-fake-vaccinations-osama-bin-ladens-dna

CIA organised fake vaccination drive to get Osama bin Laden's family DNA

As a resultTaliban refuses to allow polio vacination in areas they control in Pakistan.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandso...n-in-pakistan-derails-world-polio-eradication.

seebell said:

You have more faith in scientists than I do.



You're right again gmart.

Military/CIA LSD experiments.
http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/cia-lsd.htm

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/high-anxiety-lsd-in-the-cold-war


Fake vaccination program conducted by the CIA in Pakistan.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/11/cia-fake-vaccinations-osama-bin-ladens-dna

CIA organised fake vaccination drive to get Osama bin Laden's family DNA

As a resultTaliban refuses to allow polio vacination in areas they control in Pakistan.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandso...n-in-pakistan-derails-world-polio-eradication.

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MKUltra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

Mass fluoridation of water comes to mind as well.

seebell said:

You have more faith in scientists than I do.

You're right again gmart.

Military/CIA LSD experiments.
http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/cia-lsd.htm

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/high-anxiety-lsd-in-the-cold-war


Fake vaccination program conducted by the CIA in Pakistan.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/11/cia-fake-vaccinations-osama-bin-ladens-dna

CIA organised fake vaccination drive to get Osama bin Laden's family DNA

As a resultTaliban refuses to allow polio vacination in areas they control in Pakistan.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandso...n-in-pakistan-derails-world-polio-eradication.

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Maybe I just draw a distinction between faking a vaccination program or experimenting with non-lethal drugs effects on combatants and deliberately infecting innocent bystanders with usually lethal infectious disease.
I am not spring-loaded to the "defend the schmucks in the Federal government" position, but I seriously doubt any American government official would deliberately and with malice aforethought infect African civilians with a disease which will probably be lethal.

And, my final hedge. I have enormous doubts that a scientist who caught wind of such a program would sit tight and not disclose knowledge of such a program, especially if her/his involvement was post-facto and tangential. Man, they'd be on Fox/MSNBC and have a hefty book deal so fast it would make the CIA's head spin. Members of the Federal government may be morally questionable enough to try such a nightmare, but they are rarely competent enough to keep this level of evil secret.

Tidewater said:

And, my final hedge. I have enormous doubts that a scientist who caught wind of such a program would sit tight and not disclose knowledge of such a program, especially if her/his involvement was post-facto and tangential. Man, they'd be on Fox/MSNBC and have a hefty book deal so fast it would make the CIA's head spin. Members of the Federal government may be morally questionable enough to try such a nightmare, but they are rarely competent enough to keep this level of evil secret.

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Of course, said scientist may find himself in deadly car crash or robbery that went wrong. Similarly to Vince Foster who allegedly shot himself in the back of the head.