If he would have been a normal student I seriously doubt the University would have allowed him back in.
Notice the bolded comment. Now, read this from UA when DJ signed his LOI in December:The quiet of Scooba almost got to him.
Pettway missed Alabama.
When fellow defensive lineman Jarran Reed, who was being recruited by the Crimson Tide, was getting ready to make a trip to campus, Pettway wanted to tag along.
"Coach, I'm going to go for a ballgame," he told Stephens.
"No, you can't go," Stephens replied. "You're not allowed."
It was a painful moment. Stephens reminded Pettway, "You made this bed." The university wouldn't let him set foot on campus until he was cleared through the proper channels.
After starting out in Scooba motivated and focused, Pettway began feeling distant.
"He kind of felt in the middle of the desert," Stephens said. "He never knew if Alabama ever wanted him back."
One phone call changed that.
After catching up with Stephens one afternoon, Saban asked to speak with Pettway.
"I don't know what that conversation was," Stephens said. "But when he got that phone call, it was like he was smiling. I don't want to say he was tearful, but I could have shown him a picture of Old Yeller and it would have sent him over the edge."
Later on, after Pettway had been cleared to visit campus, he and Stephens drove to Tuscaloosa for the first time since his dismissal.
IIRC, his petition had to go before a committee made up of students."D.J. Pettway was suspended from UA in February 2013 after he was arrested for two counts of robbery," Lane's statement read. "The charges stemming from his arrest are no longer pending. Pettway recently petitioned for re-enrollment to the University. After thoroughly evaluating all aspects of his request, which includes the facts surrounding the February 2013 arrest as well as Pettway's current situation, the University is allowing Pettway to re-enroll for the Spring 2014 semester. Pettway's continued enrollment depends on his ability to fulfill all requirements the University has specifically mandated for him during the remainder of his time as a UA student."
Don't be foolish. You're kidding himself if you don't believe Saban's backing and his skill as a football player assisted him.This wasn't a case of a guy being dismissed from school and then allowed 10 months later back on campus. There appears to be no special treatment here. Don't say stuff like "no normal Alabama student would get this treatment" because they would. DJ was granted youthful offender status, so we aren't allowed to see the information with the case. He didn't get Y.O. status because he was a football player.
No, I don't have to support a particular player. I don't wish injury on him but I don't cheer for him.I hope this is not going to be one of those threads where everyone is compliaining about DJ Pettaway.. This is sensitive matter... we need to support him whether we like it or not. What happened in the past, is already done. He's back on the team, and he's making the most of it. I wish Espn hasn't done this story especially in the middle of the season.
Of what crime? I have yet to see any evidence that Pettway committed an action of aggression. In your mind, even in the eye of the law, he might have been guilty of a crime. However, has anyone presented any evidence that Pettway committed an act of aggression?So we don't know what part DJ took. If he was there and did nothing to stop it, my position is that he should be history at UA. He's big enough to stop this wrong doing. I don't know all the particulars and hopefully there's information we don't know that is in DJ's favor. I said in my original post, if the facts are as they are presented in the article are correct, he should not be at UA. I can forgive a guy, fine, but I wouldn't expect to be at the University if I was guilty of this crime as portrayed in the article.
Until he gets a sack that helps win a game. I doubt you'll be in your seat.No, I don't have to support a particular player. I don't wish injury on him but I don't cheer for him.
My life and principals aren't governed based on the outcome of a football game or a player's skill. I don't think he should be a part of his team and I found his active or inactive participation on the violent of assault of a student reprehensible. You and others disagree, that's fine. Coach didn't ask me my opinion so my lack of support carries as much weight as your support.Until he gets a sack that helps win a game. I doubt you'll be in your seat.
I find that funny. Really funny. Thanks!My life and principals aren't governed based on the outcome of a football game or a player's skill. I don't think he should be a part of his team and I found his active or inactive participation on the violent of assault of a student reprehensible. You and others disagree, that's fine. Coach didn't ask me my opinion so my lack of support carries as much weight as your support.
I've said on several occasions on this board that not only did Saban make a mistake letting Pettway back on the team, Bonner made a mistake allowing him to set foot on campus.So you're saying beating a man until you have to kick him to see if he's dead is not being a thug? C'mon ...
Where should he be ... Florida State, Auburn, Tennessee
No, I don't have to support a particular player. I don't wish injury on him but I don't cheer for him.
Don't be so sure about that!I've said on several occasions on this board that not only did Saban make a mistake letting Pettway back on the team, Bonner made a mistake allowing him to set foot on campus.
Unless something entirely new and exculpatory comes out (and I'd bet every one of my Tide Pride points that if such information existed, it would be out by now), I stand by that assessment.
Forgiveness and redemption do not preclude consequences.
They kicked the victim one last time because they thought they might have ACCIDENTALLY(how, please tell me, is anything about this whole incident an "accident"????) beaten him to death.
Giving the benefit of every single doubt, what he did was nothing less than accessory to attempted manslaughter.
And yes, if he were just another student, he would have been in jail a long time ago.
I always felt that accessory is such a ridiculous crime. What did you do? Well I didn't do anything! Ok then, that's a crime! Clearly, it's wrong to be present and not stop something, but I question if it should be criminal or not.IGiving the benefit of every single doubt, what he did was nothing less than accessory to attempted manslaughter.
And yes, if he were just another student, he would have been in jail a long time ago.
That's your prerogative. Just don't tell me what I need to do whether I like it or not.So be it. That's your issue... not our. I'm focusing on positive thing. HE's learning how to be a better man, and I'll support DJ and Alabama on this.
If the facts presented in the article are accurate, I don't understand why Pettway is on the campus, much less the team. If he's a thug, he should play for the Boogs or Vols, but not for Bama.
"His current remorse is meaningless" to whether or not he should be here. Of course we're glad Pettway recognizes his error, but he shouldn't be here.
Drop the back and forth, we know where you both stand.That's your prerogative. Just don't tell me what I need to do whether I like it or not.
One of the great things about this board is that one member does not have the standing to tell another member what they can or should or should not post.That's your prerogative. Just don't tell me what I need to do whether I like it or not.
Only? The kid was nearly beat to death. Thank God it wasn't a rape. Would you be saying "Is this DJ's only past transgression?" in that case?Is this DJ's only past transgression? I think I remember reading that it was. The other three all had other run ins with the law either before or after this incident. If this was DJ only transgression I feel his second chance is warranted. It's kinda hard to understand how remorseful and sorry DJ actually was considering he was back the next year though. Then again, as I stated above, I think almost everyone deserves a second chance..