Bama better with Lane Kiffin or worse?

It's too early to tell. We have a lot more procedural penalties and that may be a more complicated offense but it may be totally unrelated.

I'm going to trust CNS on this one. If he's not doing a good job, we'll have a new OC next year.

It's hard to call effective plays with such inconsistent OL play.

jthomas666 said:

It's hard to call effective plays with such inconsistent OL, QB, TE, RB play.

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FIFY :wink:

After the Florida game I found myself worrying that he would get a head coaching spot next season. Two games later, I'm not that worried about it. I'm more in a "wait and see" type mode.

Is a zebra white with black stripes or black with white stripes??

UAME said:

Is a zebra white with black stripes or black with white stripes??

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Black with white stripes. :biggrin2:

IMO, it doesn't matter who our OC is until our line begins knocking others on their back-sides.

It just seems to me worse. I don't want to be a Debbie Downer by any means but the O looks lost when time to call the next play.

I believe we are better with Lane Kiffin as OC, yes.

WE're better with him... I think it's matter of our OL not holding the blocks longer, and i think we'll see better team this weekend.

BamainBoston said:

I'm beginning to believe that his play calling at the beginning of the year covered up a lot of deficiencies.

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That's a very real possibility..

64met said:

IMO, it doesn't matter who our OC is until our line begins knocking others on their back-sides.

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I think the play calling is fine ...i just think we have line issues which cause not being able to run the football....and i think sims has got rattled because of line play

I believe that we are in a better position with Kiffin as an OC, but even for all of McElwain's best called games, he had some pretty bad ones. I've seen some stats out there where Sims overall QB numbers in the last two weeks are better than McElroy's worst numbers during the middle of the 2009 season. I realize some of this is comparing apples to oranges, but I also don't think it's all Kiffin's fault. Brock Huard did a great job showing that when Sims did have time to throw (which it seemed like he had forever from time to time), he was locking onto Cooper, and not going through his progressions. I remember JPW doing that, McElroy, even McCarron. Sims, despite being a fifth-year senior, isn't an experienced quarterback. We have to work through those issues, on top of a patchwork O-line.

I look at it this way, despite the last two games, we are...

- One play away from winning in Oxford.
- Sims hasn't thrown a INT despite being on the road. I realize that there should have been INTs, but as of now, no INTs.
- Defense is actually playing pretty well despite the STs and offensive TOs.
- We return home this weekend with a chance to keep up with Ole Miss, MSU, and AU in the SECW race.

Let's not throw away the season. Still a lot of football to be played.

BamainBoston said:

But if you had to pick a year where we'd have a great punter, this was the one.

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J.K. Scott is going 3 and pro:biggrin:

That kid ain't playing!!!

BamainBoston said:

I'm beginning to believe that his play calling at the beginning of the year covered up a lot of deficiencies.

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this times a million. I really dont know why after the arkansas game people want to act like our defense is 2011 reincarnated when 3rd down is such a huge problem, but they want to act like rival fans and treat Lane Kiffin like he is a cancer of the team. Really ask yourself would nussmeir's run offense be able to run effectivley with our current offense. the answer is no. The problem is we have the best skill position players that anyone could ask for, a qb that is learning how to be a starter for the first time, and a loaded western division all the while we dont have a good enough line to avoid constant adversity. It really showed in the wv game and we didnt really get clicking before Lane started calling no huddles giving sims confidence. The problem is we need our whole offense clicking to win western division games because every little mental lapse from a false start to an ugly execution is amplified. Its best that people should stop blaming coordinators for mistakes in execution because kirby and lane are putting them in the right position 90% of the time

BamainBoston said:

He may not win the Heisman, but he'll AT LEAST get invited.

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Kid is very impressive, not to mention his punts inside the 20. He has a NFL leg NOW and just a True Freshman. Will be fun knowing he is here for at least two more years anyways.

He has 19 punts for a 46.7 AVG, 12 of them being inside the 20 (wow), and 8 of the 19 have went 50+. I'll take that out of a TF any day!!

If CBW will not ruin him. I'm afraid by year 3 he may only be averaging 35 yards a punt.

CaliforniaTide said:

I believe that we are in a better position with Kiffin as an OC, but even for all of McElwain's best called games, he had some pretty bad ones. I've seen some stats out there where Sims overall QB numbers in the last two weeks are better than McElroy's worst numbers during the middle of the 2009 season. I realize some of this is comparing apples to oranges, but I also don't think it's all Kiffin's fault. Brock Huard did a great job showing that when Sims did have time to throw (which it seemed like he had forever from time to time), he was locking onto Cooper, and not going through his progressions. I remember JPW doing that, McElroy, even McCarron. Sims, despite being a fifth-year senior, isn't an experienced quarterback. We have to work through those issues, on top of a patchwork O-line.

I look at it this way, despite the last two games, we are...

- One play away from winning in Oxford.
- Sims hasn't thrown a INT despite being on the road. I realize that there should have been INTs, but as of now, no INTs.
- Defense is actually playing pretty well despite the STs and offensive TOs.
- We return home this weekend with a chance to keep up with Ole Miss, MSU, and AU in the SECW race.

Let's not throw away the season. Still a lot of football to be played.

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our defense held OM to 3 points until the late 3rd quarter in Oxford. the secondary didn't adjust well to the bunch and trip formations that led to the breakdown. Collins was gimpy on the last TD that tied the game. the defense save us in the Arkansas game. the front 7 is playing like the Alabama of old . they are the bright spot in the last 2 games. If they continue to play well the rest of the season, we have a great shot to win it all.