Yall are assuming that Ole Miss and Mittippi Tate won't lose to anyone else. I think Ole Miss will lose to both Auburn and Mittippi Tate. Bama will beat both Mittippi Tate and Allbarn.
Scenarios for the SEC to get two teams in four team playoff.
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I don't know why, but this is just a frustrating thread.
... "What no one's considered is what if Ole Miss loses to MSU, MSU loses to Alabama, Alabama beats MSU, Auburn loses only to Alabama, but Alabama loses to LSU, MSU loses to LSU, Ole Miss loses to Arkansas, Notre Dame doesn't lose any more, FSU loses to Duke, Baylor doesn't lose, Michigan State loses once - but in only in a 2 OT game to Ohio State but beats them in the Big 12 Championship, and Oregon goes to 8 OTs with UCLA which is then called due to weather so they end up with a tie on their record... Then four committee members are sick on selection Sunday so we are left with only 8 members, three of which are Pac-12 Homers... What then? Oh, my goodness!!!"
... "What no one's considered is what if Ole Miss loses to MSU, MSU loses to Alabama, Alabama beats MSU, Auburn loses only to Alabama, but Alabama loses to LSU, MSU loses to LSU, Ole Miss loses to Arkansas, Notre Dame doesn't lose any more, FSU loses to Duke, Baylor doesn't lose, Michigan State loses once - but in only in a 2 OT game to Ohio State but beats them in the Big 12 Championship, and Oregon goes to 8 OTs with UCLA which is then called due to weather so they end up with a tie on their record... Then four committee members are sick on selection Sunday so we are left with only 8 members, three of which are Pac-12 Homers... What then? Oh, my goodness!!!"
It wasn't really sarcasm. Exaggeration, perhaps. Maybe "mocking." I don't know - it was something, though.fixed it for ya... i think
I go back to my original statement, right now I only see two teams for sure getting in and that assumes they win out, which they should, and that is FSU and ND. Every other conference over the next month is up for grabs.
WHy ND? If they win out they still will be behind some team... Dont be suprised to see ND not making the cuts... Now, if FSU drops a game this season, they can be out of the playoff picture fast, because this late in season... any loss will hurt any teams...
Good point and you are correct. I am still standing by if we win out we are in the play-off.
I have to second the confusion about Notre Dame being in without another loss, by anyone that thinks Alabama will be left out. Notre Dame isn't going to win the ACC (as importantly, they lost to presumptive ACC winner), Alabama isn't likely to win the SEC. Both lost to very good teams, but Alabama's loss was earlier and involved more significant injuries to my knowledge (committee criteria). Alabama also plays a tougher schedule.
I think Notre Dame has a good shot, absolutely. I'd put Michigan State and Oregon behind them. But, I don't see how one might think the committee is going to favor conference champs and Notre Dame, one argument defeats the other.
I think Notre Dame has a good shot, absolutely. I'd put Michigan State and Oregon behind them. But, I don't see how one might think the committee is going to favor conference champs and Notre Dame, one argument defeats the other.
These scenarios are incomplete and have to include what happens to Oregon, Michigan State as 1 loss conference champions.
Well, I'm a Bama fan, not an SEC fan. So I don't particularly care whether the SEC gets one or two teams in...as long as Bama gets in. But, IMO, the only way Bama gets in as an 11-1 non-champ is if by seasons end, there are only four undefeated or one loss teams left for the committee too chose from, and we're one of 'em.
All of these scenarios are predicated on us winning out. But there are several other teams that could also "win out". This final four is not only about inclusion, but also exclusion. For example, if Oregon wins out and are 12-1 Pac-12 champs, will they be left out in favor of an 11-1 SEC non division winner? I don't think so. What if tOSU wins out? A 12-1 Big-10 champ or an 11-1 SEC runner-up? What about Baylor? An 11-1 Big-12 champ or Bama? We might get in over a Big-12 champ, but the last time that happened it led to the demise of the BCS in favor of this committee and their new criteria and that was done for a reason...not to do the same thing again. And then there's ND. AN 11-1 team whose only loss was to FSU, or an 11-1 Bama whose lone loss was to OM. The past has not been favorable for the Tide when it comes to ND ('66 and'77). There have been many posts about why Bama should go, and the Bama fan in me agrees, but the realist says otherwise. Perhaps by seasons end there will be pretty obvious choices, I'm sure the committee hopes so. But one thing's for sure...we gotta beat Tennercee this week. RTR
All of these scenarios are predicated on us winning out. But there are several other teams that could also "win out". This final four is not only about inclusion, but also exclusion. For example, if Oregon wins out and are 12-1 Pac-12 champs, will they be left out in favor of an 11-1 SEC non division winner? I don't think so. What if tOSU wins out? A 12-1 Big-10 champ or an 11-1 SEC runner-up? What about Baylor? An 11-1 Big-12 champ or Bama? We might get in over a Big-12 champ, but the last time that happened it led to the demise of the BCS in favor of this committee and their new criteria and that was done for a reason...not to do the same thing again. And then there's ND. AN 11-1 team whose only loss was to FSU, or an 11-1 Bama whose lone loss was to OM. The past has not been favorable for the Tide when it comes to ND ('66 and'77). There have been many posts about why Bama should go, and the Bama fan in me agrees, but the realist says otherwise. Perhaps by seasons end there will be pretty obvious choices, I'm sure the committee hopes so. But one thing's for sure...we gotta beat Tennercee this week. RTR
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