2014 = 2011?

With all due respect Chuck, the SEC champ is in and all other SEC teams are not.

GrayTide said:

With all due respect Chuck, the SEC champ is in and all other SEC teams are not.

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Gray, are you saying that there will not be two sec teams in the playoffs?

The only way we get in without winning the SEC championship is to demolish all of our remaining opponents like we did to A&M, AND for the rest of the league champions to have 2 bad/late losses (as in not in the top 10 of the polls). As it is now, FSU will have 0 to 1 loss, SEC winner will be in, OSU or Michigan State will likely have one loss, and either Oregon or Baylor finishes with one loss, and don't forget ND,so we are very likely OUT unless we win the SEC. There is a lot of football left. Everything will be clear in late November.

BamaDMD said:

Gray, are you saying that there will not be two sec teams in the playoffs?

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Not Gray, but NOT even if the 11-1 non-champion is ranked #1 in the Polls. Which is what would have happened in 2011 had LSU lost to UGA in the SECCG. This is NOT 2011! 2011 is why we have what we have in 2014.

CrimsonChuck said:

This scenario which I posted about last week was eliminated with Ole Miss losing. If we win out, we are in. If Ole Miss wins out too, it could be exactly like it was in 2011 where we could avoid playing a dangerous Georgia team in the SEC Championship and go straight to the playoffs.

There are other similarities too. Our loss was a game where we were better than the other team in all facets of the game except for the little things.

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I`ll believe that 2 of 4 come out of the SEC when I see it. Should it ever happen? Sure. Will it? Another story!

Too many speculations and assumptions at this point. You cannot just assume what the committee will do. Just focus on winning rest of the games this season, and let it take care of itself in the end. It's too early to say this and that, when we don't know what will happen.

Now, I'm going to say this: I honestly don't think a second SEC team will get left out at all. The new playoff poll comes out tomorrow night, and from what I've heard, it will be little slightly different than the other polls. The way the schedule is set up, the poll will change a lot in the next few weeks.

Pathforward #`1
Ole Miss is now ranked 7th, but given the schedule, they could be # 3 or #4 at the end of the season. Now, Let's say come December 1, Let's say FSU, Alabama and ole miss wins out. Oregon, MIch St, Ole Miss, Georgia, TCU, Kansas state, Baylor, OSU rounds out the top 8 list. now, Ole miss and Georgia goes to championship, and Ole miss wins. Ole Miss will make the playoff, but if Alabama stays ranked ahead of Ole throughout the season, it'll be hard to ignore Alabama at this point. Now, If Miss state loses, they fall down to #6 or #7 and we could see Mich st, TCU slipping in.

PathForward #2
FSU, Alabama wins out. Alabama goes to SEC Championship if Ole miss loses again. In this case, we would have one SEC team representing the playoff. Miss State could be outside looking in ( #5 or #6) because they lost so late in the season.

Path forward #3 whoever lose in championship game against Georgia, will create a spot for second SEC team to get in.

PathForward 4
Ohio State, Mich St, Baylor, Kansas State, TCU are playing well and could make a strong case to get placed in play off instead of Alabama if Alabama doesn't make it to SEC Championshipo.


That is why I was saying, don't speculation at this point. It's a mess right now, and it'll sort itself out in next few weeks. For the time being, just enjoy watching the team.

If we are number three.... and we beat top ranked Barn...and then the number one team in the country...we will be up to one or two in the AP.... SEC champ game or not.. they cant deny us.. Can you imagine us being number one in the AP poll and being denied the top four?

AP poll has nothing to do with CFP.

I simply don't understand the constant pessimism about two SEC teams getting in the playoffs. The SEC has two of the top four teams in the country. I also don't buy into this widespread conspiracy against the SEC.

But it does have something to do with opinions...which is my point... I don't believe they will be that egregious and go that far against the grain...weather they want to or not... snubbing a number one team would not go well with public opinion. Then we all watch sub par teams battle for the NC and get killed. So there is relevance to the AP.

IMHO, if we do not win the SEC Championship and there are at least two other 1-loss Conference Champions that played in conference championship games, we will be left out.

KillVols said:

But it does have something to do with opinions...which is my point... I don't believe they will be that egregious and go that far against the grain...weather they want to or not... snubbing a number one team would not go well with public opinion. Then we all watch sub par teams battle for the NC and get killed. So there is relevance to the AP.

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Any outcry would be regional(read South). The NATIONAL opinion is that there is favorable bias toward the SEC in the Polls. There would be no national outcry. They would be ROFL.

ALA2262 said:

Any outcry would be regional(read South). The NATIONAL opinion is that there is favorable bias toward the SEC in the Polls. There would be no national outcry.

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Do you get a nickel every time you say something negative? There is no reason to think a one-loss SEC team will be left out. Even those who dislike the SEC, respect it. Most people just want to see good football.

OreBama said:

Do you get a nickel every time you say something negative? There is no reason to think a one-loss SEC team will be left out. Even those who dislike the SEC, respect it. Most people just want to see good football.

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There is every reason to think a one loss non champion SEC team will be left out. Would you like them to replace a one loss PAC12 Champion Oregon? So that people could see some GOOD football?

OreBama said:

I simply don't understand the constant pessimism about two SEC teams getting in the playoffs. The SEC has two of the top four teams in the country. I also don't buy into this widespread conspiracy against the SEC.

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That's fine. You don't have to. I am optimistic about things we have control over. As far as other people's opinions and judgments -- especially this playoff committee -- I wouldn't be surprised if they have us in the top 4 tomorrow night and we win out. But don't be surprised if Ole Miss wins out and plays/wins the SEC Championship Game and *then* they decide to push Ole Miss ahead of us simply because they made it to the SECCG and won. And then they push in a team like Michigan State because they're a 1-loss team who happened to have won their conference championship game too. In my mind, it won't change a good season we're having (and I'm proud of as well). But, I simply don't have any faith in this group until they've voted for a few years. The reason? Think of why this whole thing was started in the first place. I know SEC gets a lot of hate now but I don't believe in conspiracies (gives the wrong people far too much credit) either. I don't think any conference will be allowed more than one team in the playoffs. I'd love to be proven wrong but I'm sticking with that for now.

I don't see it happening.