Just curious, for conversation sake...are you saying we should be ahead of Oregon?
Week 1 College football playoff poll released
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Some of y'all are acting like this is the final ranking. Step away from the ledge over Oregon being ranked ahead of us, how Alabama didn't get credit for losing Ryan Kelly, how we should be in the top four right now.
We just need to be in the top four. Given how this season has played out thus far, I'm not sure there will be much of tangible difference between #1 and #4, even if #1 is undefeated. The Florida State-Notre Dame game showed that between the #2 and #10 teams in the country, the difference is a controversial pass interference/pick call. Furthermore, both semi-final games will be neutral site games. Finally, and I'll say until I'm blue in the face, Alabama has the best schedule with which to move into the top four in the end. What I mean is not that it's the easiest schedule, but if Alabama wins out, we will have played LSU away (currently #19), MSU (currently #1), Auburn (currently #3), and Georgia (currently #11). Alabama wins out with that slate, then Alabama will most definitely have a much better body of work than Oregon, Florida State, or anyone else.
I'm treating the rankings like this: the CFP Top 25 is how they ranked the teams as they stand right now. Being honest, Alabama's best win is against West Virginia. It would've been against Ole Miss (even with the LSU loss) had Alabama won in Ole Miss, but that didn't happen. The big wins against Florida and Texas A&M mean nothing as neither team is currently in the CFP Top 25. That's fine, because the top four are not determined by the first set of rankings. AD Long said that all teams start with a clean sheet next week after this weekend's games are done, and I'd say there's a slight chance Alabama may drop a spot simply because Alabama isn't playing this weekend - we'll see.
We just need to be in the top four. Given how this season has played out thus far, I'm not sure there will be much of tangible difference between #1 and #4, even if #1 is undefeated. The Florida State-Notre Dame game showed that between the #2 and #10 teams in the country, the difference is a controversial pass interference/pick call. Furthermore, both semi-final games will be neutral site games. Finally, and I'll say until I'm blue in the face, Alabama has the best schedule with which to move into the top four in the end. What I mean is not that it's the easiest schedule, but if Alabama wins out, we will have played LSU away (currently #19), MSU (currently #1), Auburn (currently #3), and Georgia (currently #11). Alabama wins out with that slate, then Alabama will most definitely have a much better body of work than Oregon, Florida State, or anyone else.
I'm treating the rankings like this: the CFP Top 25 is how they ranked the teams as they stand right now. Being honest, Alabama's best win is against West Virginia. It would've been against Ole Miss (even with the LSU loss) had Alabama won in Ole Miss, but that didn't happen. The big wins against Florida and Texas A&M mean nothing as neither team is currently in the CFP Top 25. That's fine, because the top four are not determined by the first set of rankings. AD Long said that all teams start with a clean sheet next week after this weekend's games are done, and I'd say there's a slight chance Alabama may drop a spot simply because Alabama isn't playing this weekend - we'll see.
I laugh at all the supposed anti-SEC bias: Three of the top four, baby. Haha
I still say we win out we're in the playoff no matter what else happens.
I still say we win out we're in the playoff no matter what else happens.
Not sure if I would take that stand or not, but they have always been about flash and not substance, IMO. I don't care for their brand for football. I still think we could beat them. I don't think they would win many games if they had the SEC West on their schedule. With that in mind, I think they should be in the top 15 or top 10, but not the top 5.
Well, since you directly responded to me...............
They could have put 4 SEC-W teams, at #1-4, and Jawja, at #5, (which is probably close to the truth) and guess what............
Only one is getting in. This is the first ranking. Its only purpose is to show what the final rankings might look like. And get a lot of people mad and/or talking.
It is working. (There is only one thing worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.)
There is too much football ahead, for this first ranking to be of any consequence. Other than to go "Well, if all those SEC teams had not beaten their collective brains in, we could have put more in the playoff. But, they did, so we can't."
Forget who is in front of us. Worry who is close behind us, and the convoluted "logic" that will used for one of them to bump us.
Agreed. Good point.
I was pleasantly surprised that so many SEC teams were listed in the top six. I really thought they would pick one SEC team, and allow other conferences their shot.
As this plays out, I will be surprised to see how teams jump other teams in subsequent weeks.
Given the schedule Alabama finishes with, and assuming Alabama wins out (by no means a foregone conclusion), it will take some real mental gymnastics to not select Alabama now.
Bama is in a fine position as of now.
The only thing that concerns me is the Bama fatigue. We've been on top or in the running now for seven years and I'm sure a lot of people would like to see us outside the top 4. If we win out, it will take care of itself, no way to keep us out.
Of all the SEC fatigue, we are on top of the list.
Of all the SEC fatigue, we are on top of the list.
You know, it's probably a rude thing to smack a man who ain't here to defend himself but - since that's your own fault and my posting pedigree was established here years ago, I'm going to educate you on how to think.
Not really hard to comprehend at all.
Hmm, I always thought Coach Saban said "it's one game" and "at the end of the season will have a body of work." The committee is taking the entire body of work into account. It's the best four teams of the SEASON, not the best four this week, or at least it shouldn't be.
But your choice is arbitrary; one could just as easily argue that Ole Miss doesn't count because that was "last week." You can't pick an arbitrary date. Over the course of the entire season, it's hard to argue Ole Miss has not been the more impressive, particularly since they beat us head to head.
They still should be ahead, and they are.
Because the AP and coaches polls are myths that have no effect one way or the other.
Uh, the AP and coaches poll have been the servants of the BCS since 1998. You might have heard about it.
In other words - according to you - the committee needs to DISREGARD ALL RESULTS from the games and........simply pick who they think are the four best teams right now.
Meaning that if Florida beats FSU 70-0 in the last regular season game (with FSU unbeaten) then.......Florida should make the playoff.
Right?
Which is to be preferred? Actual results of games or hypothetical results?
Hypothetically, everyone thought Alabama would beat Ole Miss on October 4.
No, consistency in the committee . If you give the Ducks the benefit of the doubt, Bama had three key injuries in the biggest game to date....in the road, yet they were either the only team that head to head was considered or the team that injuries were not considered........ Can of worms with the injury thing. Injuries have always been part of football . But to openly acknowledge it was a consideration for one team is totally unacceptable. It was clear Bama could not run the ball after Kelly went out.
Of course, there is the other . The committee wasn't aware of the Bama injuries . To me, that is worse than even a bias.
BTW, 25 percent of the committee are tied to the PAC 12.
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A: I really, really really hate the injuries criteria. I hate most of the committee criteria, having said that
B: Oregon has two quality wins, Alabama has one quality win. The apparent reason they put Oregon ahead had nothing to do with injuries, those seem to cancel themselves out in head to head comparisons.
The first ranking was the most important ranking they are likely to ever make. It set the precedent, it shut up Danny and a lot of other idiots. From now on you'll start hearing a lot less about conference championships and a lot more about quality wins.
Having said that, you seem to take two lines. One is completely true, that the SEC is going to beat each other up. The other though is a bit confusing, which seems to be that even if you survive the beating, even if you rack up all those quality wins, the committee will ignore everything thus far and pull the rug out from underneath the SEC.
Considering how wrong so many people have been so far, and since my prediction after the Ole Miss game seems on track, I'm sticking with my prediction that Alabama just has to win.
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Fair enough. If Alabama wins out (with wins at #19, at home for #1 and at home for #3 all in the last four weeks of the regular season), and they are not selected, I'll reach for my pitchfork.Fify
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