Well, this one has drifted off (and we have no rule against it at all), so we'll let it drift where it may. If you want to start a voter machine thread, I'll see that it's confined to that...I only want serious discussions on voter machine issues.
I put my $0.02 in on the amendment in a new thread. Back to voting machines...I only want serious discussions on voter machine issues.
Well, any "employment arrangement" you can't walk away from is technically slavery. There's no real difference between indentured servitude, which many of our ancestors here in the South immigrated under and slavery. The only distinction was that it was supposed to have a term. However, there were all sorts of tricks to extend the length of servitude, so many just got fed up and walked off the job, then headed south...But I look at that all both ways. In all seriousness - who are WE to go tell an Arab country how to treat their women (just for example)? We talk about the expansion of "human rights," but whoever decided these were "rights" and needed to be expanded?
I've always viewed "rights" for the most part as symbolic myths. The "right" you have today may or may not exist tomorrow. I've always thought one of the most amusing things is to listen to the SCOTUS nomination fights. The right argues so-called strict constructionism (e.g. original intent) which gets amusing regarding issues that didn't exist in the 18th century; the left screams hysterical about "respecting precedent," but they only apply that to one case, Roe v Wade. (If we actually respected precedent, we'd still have slaves and separate but equal schools to name just two things that were changed later).
As far as slavery......well, most other societies were built in large part on slavery although it was a bit different situation; a lot of the "slavery" referenced in the Bible was during agrarian times and was more of an employment arrangement than anything else (so to even apply it to the USA in the 19th century was somewhat misguided).
Oh agreed but really didn't want to be exhaustive.Well, any "employment arrangement" you can't walk away from is technically slavery. There's no real difference between indentured servitude, which many of our ancestors here in the South immigrated under and slavery. The only distinction was that it was supposed to have a term. However, there were all sorts of tricks to extend the length of servitude, so many just got fed up and walked off the job, then headed south...
LOL!Oh agreed but really didn't want to be exhaustive.
And now as far as voting machines - it's Obama's fault!!
Bed time....
Your right to believe that. Do you really think this is not a coordinated effort?If it was done on purpose its more likely some local hacks rather than the billionaires.
It could be, I dont know. I just think that the billionaires are smart enough to not get involves in something illegal like this.Your right to believe that. Do you really think this is not a coordinated effort?
Several years ago, ACORN had a project (probably funded with our taxes) to elect AGs, in as many states as possible. When one of them (MN AG) sees nothing wrong with the unfunny comedian receiving more votes than number of registered voters, try to convince us it is just some local party hacks who are involved.
As a side note, ever notice how often schmucks like Karl Rove are wrong, in predicting elections? Might be a result of them being idiots. Could also be the result of the dems knowing how many votes they need to find, in elections they should lose.
Just going from the DoI, "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights" means...what? It's not a leap to translate that to "God-given rights".The part I've never understood is why anyone tries to argue we have "God given rights."
And I say that as an evangelical.
It SOUNDS good, yeah. But is it true? The Scriptures don't really go into "rights" so much as they go into "responsibilities" we have towards one another. Assuming my position for just a moment - God didn't give suggestions and he didn't say "these are your rights;" He said, "don't do this, do that."
That has bothered me since I was a kid, which is why you don't see me here arguing for rights from the Bible perspective. I may be wrong, I'm just saying.
A voting machine is nothing more than a computer run electromechanical device. The most important part, of course, is that the hardware portion is controlled by the computer. Computers do malfunction, of course. But I've never in my life seen multiple computers in the same location all fail in the exact same way at the exact same time. To do that they have to all be programmed to perform the exact same function either at the same time or under a given set of circumstances.I only want serious discussions on voter machine issues.
Not my home state, but I'll take strab at it.Just going from the DoI, "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights" means...what? It's not a leap to translate that to "God-given rights".
This is from the Founding Fathers, and I am assuming that strict constitutionalists agree with this. If not, then someone who IS a strict constitutionalist please enlighten me, so I'm not living in the dark anymore.
George Soros approves of this message.As for the opening post, I spoke with a Maryland voter yesterday (lives in the "southern" portion of the state in southeastern Maryland) and the same thing happened to her. her Republican vote got changed by the machine to a Democrat vote and she complained. After she complained, they voided her vote and she re-voted, and it worked correctly the second time. Her advice, you have to check.
Personally, I believe paper ballots with boxes next to candidates' names is the way to go. Voting machines are simply invitations to fraud and I am convinced Democrats gain enormously by the fraud.
Or all the readers read high and Democrat candidates always appear on top out of sheer laziness.A voting machine is nothing more than a computer run electromechanical device. The most important part, of course, is that the hardware portion is controlled by the computer. Computers do malfunction, of course. But I've never in my life seen multiple computers in the same location all fail in the exact same way at the exact same time. To do that they have to all be programmed to perform the exact same function either at the same time or under a given set of circumstances.
In a nutshell, if multiple computers at any given location all changed Republican votes to Democratic votes it is because they were all programmed to do it. There is no other feasible explanation for it happening.
I remember in 2000 there was this absolutely moronic voter in Florida who wanted to vote for Gore, but was not sure if she had voted for Buchanan. Before of the privacy of the ballot box, she thought she was not allowed to get help in making sure she had voted for the candidate she wanted to vote for, and she was blubbering outside the polling place about the issue.On a side note, I believe it is illegal to record yourself voting.
South Carolina’s voter ID law will be in place in the November election, but it cost the state $3.5 million in 2012 to beat Eric Holder’s Justice Department in court.
They already do that here.instead of fighting voter id, why dont they just put a program in place to provide the poor with free assistance to get a voter id? i think we all know the answer.