Fix our deep ball defense.
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So, like a 12 year old playing Madden? Do you also all out blitz 11 guys every play? [emoji6]
Saban is about "embracing the moment" and continuing the "process" for the future!
He was almost rude to the sideline reporter after the game (Allie?). Her first question was about the playoffs and he let her know he wanted to talk about the championship we'd just won...
Only a newb would do that. I usually try to become the nose tackle and then drop back as safety in order to get 7 int's a game.
so we should switch ivory to db for the playoffs?Only a newb would do that. I usually try to become the nose tackle and then drop back as safety in order to get 7 int's a game.
gosh no!!! urban would have a heart attack right on the sideline if he saw that....... wait a minute.
I have zero organized football experience. But I did get to hear Joe Kines talk about this issue with my own ears.
Kines said that whether the DB should look for the ball depends on whether he's "in phase" with the WR. I'm sure Kines would have a more detailed and elegant definition of "in phase," but to a layman like me, it's essentially "good coverage, step for step with the WR."
If the DB is in phase, he's taught to look for the ball when the WR does.
If he's not in phase, even if it's by a half-step, he's taught to disrupt the catch (knock the ball out of hands, rake it on the way down, etc.) rather than knock it away. Reason being, time and time again, when the DB isn't in phase, and he looks back, the WR inevitably pulls a little further away.
Kines also said it was one of the hardest things to teach an elite athlete -- to admit, even to himself, that he's beat, even if it's only by a foot or less. They're so used to compensating for that sort of thing by being the most dominant athlete on the field, they just can't internalize that they might not be able to get away with being just a few inches out of position.
Saban already addressed this few years ago.. I can't remember an article I posted here on TF forum, but there's another one I found interesting... http://brophyfootball.blogspot.com/2009/10/nick-saban-middle-of-field-safety.html
I think the answer is clear -- we should quit rushing the passer -- and just keep the QBs in the pocket...... (which to my knowledge was how we were doing it the last few years when some of our fans were complaining about our lack of pass rush......)
Going back and looking at the play-by-play on rolltide.com, our D gave up 38 pass plays of 20+ yards this season and 7 more that were 18-19 yards. That's 45 pass plays of 18+ yards over 13 games, an average of almost 3.5 per game. The play-by-play only describes the type of passes for home games (deep, flat, etc); away games just describes it as 'pass'. For home games, 19 of these were deep balls. That's more than 2 per game at home. For those who think this is a random issue, it's just not so. It's a trend. And not a good one.
The bad news is: Oregon and Ohio State are the two most efficient passing teams in the country. The good news is: I don't think they've faced a defense like ours all season.
Our front four are going to have to do one heckuva job getting pressure on those QBs to rattle them.
The bad news is: Oregon and Ohio State are the two most efficient passing teams in the country. The good news is: I don't think they've faced a defense like ours all season.
Our front four are going to have to do one heckuva job getting pressure on those QBs to rattle them.
Yall also have to look at the defense that was called. Alabama seems to have stopped playing cover 2 and cover 3 defensive schemes. We seem to be using some combo man with cover 1. Our safeties have their own responsibilities and can only bail once they see the ball in the air. Its more of a scheme thing.
Aginast Mizzou ! It was basically throw it up and hope for a Prayer. NO ROUTE ! WR broke off his route to give QB A TARGET. I think our D will be fine.
A pass of 20 yards isn't that big of a deal in today's football. I posted this chart about why Alabama might not have played the verticals against Auburn (thus the rows about Marshall and Johnson). I found Bama gave up a total of 13 passes of 30+ yards given up by this defense prior to last night's game.
I'm more worried about what Auburn did compared to what Mizzou did last night. Those were desperation throws, and at least one should have been offensive pass interference.
I agree we gotta get better but when you lose a junior to the first round of the NFL draft every year, it's tough.
When the Line backers are having a big game out DB's look very good.
When the Line backers are having a big game out DB's look very good.
There were only six schools in FBS that averaged more than 15 yds per completion for the season; so a 20 yard completion is pretty significant. Ask Coach Saban if giving up a 20 yard pass 'isn't a big deal.' (especially when it was 3rd and 9 or more) 13 pass completions of 30+ yards over 12 games is averaging more than 1 per game. That's a trend; not a fluke as some are stating. Missouri's deep balls last night in and of themselves are not something that should be worried about; but added to all of the others, they most certainly are. All three of the teams left for us to face probably pose more vertical potential that just about every team we've faced this season. I'm not saying the sky is falling (I believe we're going to win the whole thing); but it definitely is a weakness for our team.A pass of 20 yards isn't that big of a deal in today's football. I posted this chart about why Alabama might not have played the verticals against Auburn (thus the rows about Marshall and Johnson). I found Bama gave up a total of 13 passes of 30+ yards given up by this defense prior to last night's game.
I'm more worried about what Auburn did compared to what Mizzou did last night. Those were desperation throws, and at least one should have been offensive pass interference.
on both of those plays a DL was in pursuit but slipped and fell down giving him a split second to heave that pass down the field. we just need better shoes
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