BCS 2014 - what would have been?

TRU · Dec 8, 2014

For those hating the playoff committee, I wonder if they have considered what would have happened if we were still in the BCS system. Ohio State would have obviously been out. But that would leave two one loss teams ( Bama and Oregon) ranked 1 and 2 and the sole undefeated team and defending NC FSU out in the cold. I cannot imagine what a mess that would be. Had the voters tweaked their votes to move FSU into the top two, that would have left Oregon or Bama out in the cold. Neither of these alternatives is very palatable either.

Just saying that they dodged a bullet with the four team system this year. The four team system may not last long, but it did work this year.

GreatDanish · Dec 8, 2014

I agree. I am an anti-playoff guy and I am vehemently an anti-8-team-playoff guy.
But I will admit. The playoff was a great thing this year in several ways. I still hate the committee. And there are definitely parts of this setup that I hate. I hate that it might end up hurting us one year. But when looking at this year as a whole, the playoff was a good thing for the 2014 CFB season.

TideMom2Boys · Dec 8, 2014

It would have been FSU and Bama in the national championship...with a very angry Oregon fan base left out.

All the polls would have FSU up at 1 or 2. The committee and playoff influenced them to vote them lower. They knew they would get in as long as they were 4 or higher. So they felt they could send a message to rank them lower.

BigEasyTider · Dec 8, 2014

TideMom2Boys said:
It would have been FSU and Bama in the national championship...with a very angry Oregon fan base left out.

Bingo. Under the BCS formula, undefeated FSU would have been #1; one-loss Alabama would have been #2 over one-loss Oregon, on the basis of a stronger conference, a better loss (road loss to Ole Miss as opposed to home loss to Arizona), and better tradition/name brand.

That would have been the match-up and, frankly, it wouldn't have been that controversial. Oregon fans and Pac-12 homers would have been upset, but in general that would have been considered as the "right" result.

TheAccountant · Dec 8, 2014

BigEasyTider · Dec 8, 2014

GreatDanish said:
I agree. I am an anti-playoff guy and I am vehemently an anti-8-team-playoff guy.
But I will admit. The playoff was a great thing this year in several ways. I still hate the committee. And there are definitely parts of this setup that I hate. I hate that it might end up hurting us one year. But when looking at this year as a whole, the playoff was a good thing for the 2014 CFB season.

I think that's basically right. Don't particularly care for the format, hate the selection process and the committee, but will readily admit they reached the right result this season and that it will make for a much more entertaining finale. I hope we get this lucky in most seasons, though I'm afraid we won't.

Tideflyer · Dec 8, 2014

TheAccountant said:

Interesting that if the BCS system of ranking, instead of the committee, would have been used with a four team playoff, we would have had the same four teams just with different seedings.

Snuffy Smith · Dec 8, 2014

Tideflyer said:
Interesting that if the BCS system of ranking, instead of the committee, would have been used with a four team playoff, we would have had the same four teams just with different seedings.

Different seedings but with the same teams playing each other in the same venue.

RTR91 · Dec 8, 2014

Snuffy Smith said:
Different seedings but with the same teams playing each other in the same venue.

Nope. Florida State would get New Orleans, and Bama would get Rose Bowl.

Snuffy Smith · Dec 8, 2014

RTR91 said:
Nope. Florida State would get New Orleans, and Bama would get Rose Bowl.

Am I reading the chart wrong - it says we are #1 in both? The only difference is Oregon and F$U are flipped.

TheAccountant · Dec 8, 2014

RTR91 said:
Nope. Florida State would get New Orleans, and Bama would get Rose Bowl.

We were #1 in both. We play in NOLA under both scenarios.

RTR91 · Dec 8, 2014

Snuffy Smith said:
Am I reading the chart wrong - it says we are #1 in both? The only difference is Oregon and F$U are flipped.

You're reading it fine, but the venue is decided based on proximity to both the #1 and #2 seeds. New Orleans is closer to Tallahassee than Los Angeles is. Therefore, FSU goes there, and Bama travels out west.

Snuffy Smith · Dec 8, 2014

RTR91 said:
You're reading it fine, but the venue is decided based on proximity to both the #1 and #2 seeds. New Orleans is closer to Tallahassee than Los Angeles is. Therefore, FSU goes there, and Bama travels out west.

Venue is determined by #1's choice of venue.

TheAccountant · Dec 8, 2014

RTR91 said:
You're reading it fine, but the venue is decided based on proximity to both the #1 and #2 seeds. New Orleans is closer to Tallahassee than Los Angeles is. Therefore, FSU goes there, and Bama travels out west.

That makes no sense. The committee tries to protect the two top teams from travelling too far but there is no way they'd make the clear #1 (Alabama) travel 2,000 miles and make the #2 only travel 400.

RTR91 · Dec 8, 2014

Snuffy Smith said:
Venue is determined by #1's choice of venue.

TheAccountant said:
That makes no sense. The committee tries to protect the two top teams from travelling too far but there is no way they'd make the clear #1 (Alabama) travel 2,000 miles and make the #2 only travel 400.

I posted what I've heard numerous media members say. I can't find the exact wording from the committee. I did find this Dan Wolken FAQ piece in USA Today. That indicates Alabama could have still gone to the Rose Bowl because that wouldn't be a home game for Ohio State like it would be Oregon.

Q: How will geography factor in?A: The selection committee's goal will be to protect the top two seeds from playing in road environments in semifinal games. For instance, if Southern Cal was the No. 1 seed and LSU was the No. 4 in 2014, that semifinal could be played in the Rose Bowl but not the Sugar Bowl

Snuffy Smith · Dec 8, 2014

I was unsure of how the venues were picked - but I heard this morning on the Roundtable that #1 seed gets to pick their venue for the semi-final game.

BamaJama17 · Dec 8, 2014

Alabama vs Florida State.

bamafaninOhiO · Dec 8, 2014

BigEasyTider said:
I think that's basically right. Don't particularly care for the format, hate the selection process and the committee, but will readily admit they reached the right result this season and that it will make for a much more entertaining finale. I hope we get this lucky in most seasons, though I'm afraid we won't.

Cant see it hurting us, as long as we take care of business on the field. Losing games will always make it a more complicated decision.

TheAccountant · Dec 8, 2014

RTR91 said:
I posted what I've heard numerous media members say. I can't find the exact wording from the committee. I did find this Dan Wolken FAQ piece in USA Today. That indicates Alabama could have still gone to the Rose Bowl because that wouldn't be a home game for Ohio State like it would be Oregon.
[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]

It's nearly the same distance from Eugene to Pasadena as it is from Columbus to New Orleans. The #1 seed always deserves priority in proximity.

theballguy · Dec 8, 2014

TRU said:
For those hating the playoff committee, I wonder if they have considered what would have happened if we were still in the BCS system. Ohio State would have obviously been out. But that would leave two one loss teams ( Bama and Oregon) ranked 1 and 2 and the sole undefeated team and defending NC FSU out in the cold. I cannot imagine what a mess that would be. Had the voters tweaked their votes to move FSU into the top two, that would have left Oregon or Bama out in the cold. Neither of these alternatives is very palatable either.

Just saying that they dodged a bullet with the four team system this year. The four team system may not last long, but it did work this year.

Would have been a repeat of 2012. FSU vs Bama. The Bama fatigue would have been even greater (if that can be imagined).

BCS 2014 - what would have been?

All-SEC

Hall of Fame

Hall of Fame

FB | REC Moderator

All-SEC

FB | REC Moderator

Hall of Fame

All-American

Super Moderator

All-American

All-SEC

Super Moderator

All-American

All-SEC

Super Moderator

All-American

Hall of Fame

All-American

All-SEC

Hall of Fame

TideFans.shop - NEW Stuff!