Not sure where that is coming from...
http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating
MM can run, and his arm doesn't take a backseat to JW's, either.
Prediction: Florida State beats Oregon
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating
MM can run, and his arm doesn't take a backseat to JW's, either.
Not sure why this is relevant as I was not discussing an Oregon team that actually lost a game this year, but you are correct.
Wouldn't you say FSU's chances are helped by the fact that they played a somewhat similar team in Auburn last year?
Honestly, I don't see FSU winning. I remember how tired they were against GT (defense), and if MM goes full HUNH I don't see FSU keeping up. Oregon has more talent on that side of the ball (offense) than anyone they have faced, and defensively they aren't that good.
Who would win: FL St or OH St??
I think FL St would. As such, I think FL St will beat the Ducks. The Ducks won't have the speed advantage against FL St.
I think FL St would. As such, I think FL St will beat the Ducks. The Ducks won't have the speed advantage against FL St.
They've been disrespected because they havent been that good.
They're talented, but havent played up to last years standards all season.
To me, This game could go either way, but, I think that Oregon is playing at a much higher level at this point in the season than Florida State.
Last years Auburn team inst nearly as good as this years Oregon team. Mariota is head and shoulders better than Nick Marshall, and the Oregon defense is much improved, IMO.
I'm not so sure about Florida pushing Oregon around on Offense/Defense... Both team seems to match up well when it comes to weight/Height... If you don't believe me, check out their rosters for both team, and take their starting OLs and DLs and you'll find the number are close with each other.
That's why I'm not completely sold on FSU pushing Oregon around. I can see things work out in both team favor:
FSU: SLow the game down, and wear defense out, control the tempo, and keep Oregon Offense off the field.
Oregon: Move fast, keep tempo going, wear out Defense by keeping them on the field longer. Whoever dicate the tempo from the start should have control of the game and should be in good position to win the game.
That's why I'm not completely sold on FSU pushing Oregon around. I can see things work out in both team favor:
FSU: SLow the game down, and wear defense out, control the tempo, and keep Oregon Offense off the field.
Oregon: Move fast, keep tempo going, wear out Defense by keeping them on the field longer. Whoever dicate the tempo from the start should have control of the game and should be in good position to win the game.
Every since they got beat by Stanford, they hit the weight room: http://www.csnnw.com/ducks/oregon-ducks-offensive-line-bulks
Since people are making the comparison:
Auburn 2013:
Scoring D: 24.7 ppg
Scoring O: 39.5 ppg
Sagarin SOS: 13 - played 7 ranked teams (at time of game), 5 top10 ranked teams (at time of game), including two #1 ranked teams
Oregon 2014:
Scoring D: 22.5 ppg
Scoring O: 46.3 ppg
Sagarin SOS: 33 - played 4 ranked teams (at time of game), 2 top10 ranked teams (at time of game), highest ranked team played was #7 MSU (who ended up winless against final ranked teams)
Just saying, I know giving the barners credit is tough, but last year's team was really, really good. Really good. They played a tougher schedule than Oregon has this year.
Auburn 2013:
Scoring D: 24.7 ppg
Scoring O: 39.5 ppg
Sagarin SOS: 13 - played 7 ranked teams (at time of game), 5 top10 ranked teams (at time of game), including two #1 ranked teams
Oregon 2014:
Scoring D: 22.5 ppg
Scoring O: 46.3 ppg
Sagarin SOS: 33 - played 4 ranked teams (at time of game), 2 top10 ranked teams (at time of game), highest ranked team played was #7 MSU (who ended up winless against final ranked teams)
Just saying, I know giving the barners credit is tough, but last year's team was really, really good. Really good. They played a tougher schedule than Oregon has this year.
Maybe so but when it's is clutch time Winston is on fire. Just because he has had a off year doesn't mean he can't light a defense up.
JW on fire... or his receivers finally woke up? I dont know what...seems like teams switch to different defense late in game... and whatever was working in first half... they stopped doing that in second half... anyone noticed that?
Frankly, I think everyone in the NCAA takes a back seat to Winston's arm. I can't stand the guy, but he can literally make any NFL throw he wants to off his back foot. Mariotta is very good, but he's nowhere near Rapeis wrt his arm.
And remember, he's never lost a game. He just wins.
And remember, he's never lost a game. He just wins.
At the beginning of the year I picked fsu to lose one of three games. Uf, Louisville , or nd. They won all three. I really think fsu plays around with teams and turns on the jets when it matters. They aren't playing lucky like auburn they really are good enough to erase crazy deficients. I think they will take bama and Oregon seriously. Idk if they are good enough to beat either, but I think they will be good games.
Let's also not forget about his mobility either. Nobody will mistake him for Michael Vick but his foot speed is underrated.
My dad and I talked about the same thing this morning. As a person, we can't stand him, but we all have to respect the player JW is.
Chris Carter made the comment this morning on Mike & Mike that JW has a "severe ankle injury" and to watch out for what he does against Oregon after having a month to heal. I didn't realize he was injured.
Chris Carter also said JW is ready to play in the NFL right now but MM would have to be in the right system.
I thought at the first of the year FSU would run the table because they were so dominant last year and they had JW coming back. Really the surprise is how FSU has struggled. FSU has the more talented team but they are dysfunctional so I'm picking Oregon to win.
Whoever wins, I hope it's a decisive victory so we can wipe the floor with the winner and leave no doubt who should be the National Champs.
MM is faster and quicker, he can make any throw JW can make, albeit his arm is not quite as strong.
JW has had ankle problems (MM had some last year). I am going on this year's results and for accuracy and comparing who each team has played, I still give MM the edge.
We'll see in a little over 3 weeks.
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