I read and heard the exact opposite last night. NK doesn't have the skills to do what was done to Sony; someone else (China probably) provided the expertise.
Question: The Sony cyber attack, what say you.
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If this is true (and you are the only source I have for this, so if you have a link to that info please post).As I said above, I believe the reports are correct that the cancellation order came from Tokyo. This discussion has proceeded as if that were not known, blaming movie execs, pressure from other studios, etc., etc. This movie was cancelled by the CEO of Sony because he did not want a movie spoofing NK and its leader to come out from his subsidiary while NK had the missiles to hit Japan. I know that may seem to simple, but it seems to be the truth. I guess all the hysteria is more fun...
So what if Sony sold the rights to someone else? They wouldn't do that because they feared NK would hold them responsible for selling the rights? I don't care where the order came from: the precedent that was set is clear. Anytime these fruitcakes want to, from this point forward, they can stop anything in this country by using the same tactics.
Now I hear our fearless leader was going to address this tonight (or sometime today) and from what I heard it seems some type of action (I have no idea what, maybe just more sanctions) is imminent. NK is still in a desperate situation (now we need to start to worry about ol' Vlad too because his country is teetering, and if the price of oil stays low for any length of time it will become dire) and will do desperate things. Sooner or later, someone needs to call the bluff instead of folding.
Not at all "silly" to be upset about something like this; if parents want to send their children (and this was probably rated R, not sure) to see this garbage, knowing that someone had threatened an act of terror if it was shown, well, that's is and should always be their decision, in a free country anyway.
So walk out the chain of events and tell me that people still wouldn't be cranky.
1. Sony executive cancels showing. Whatever their reasoning, it is a business decision, and theirs and only theirs to make.
2. Everyone is upset that the US isn't standing up to NK. So imagine Obama issues a strongly worded statement saying we won't cower to terrorism, yada yada yada. Sony should still show the movie.
3. Now POTUS has used his influence to try and get a company to show a movie they decided to pull.
4. Commence governmental overstepping and infringing of rights whining and outrage.
Has anyone considered that Sony realized that whoever the hackers are got more information and are holding the film hostage under risk of releasing some more damaging information? This possibility in addition to the liability concerns makes it a good business decision. If they did decide to show it and the US govt decided to provide extra security then people would be throwing hissy fits that the us govt is spending money on protection for a stoner movie. All of this coupled with the idea that major theatre chains had already said they wouldn't show the movie, hence likely making it a financial failure before it ever showed on one screen, make the issue way more complex than "OBAMA IS WEAK AND NOT LETTING US WATCH OUR STONER MOVIE!"
The only way that anyone should be mad is if the FBI or the US Govt suggested that Sony not show the film. Then I would stand up and gladly protest alongside people with chicken little arguments as they would actually have some merit.
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I hear you, but I can't agree comfortably. We go along blithefully ignoring that some of our corporations march to a distant drummer. I'm not sure at all that the decision would have been the same, had it been an onshore corporation, instead of one controlled ultimately by foreign bosses...
The Sony Films execs didn't make the decision, and it was made in fear of NK rockets, not nebulous possible future disclosures...
Sony essentially had no choice once most (all?) of the major theater chains decided not to screen it - they can't force them to show the film. Carmike Cinemas, Bow Tie Cinemas, Regal Cinemas, Cinemark, Cineplex and AMC Theatres all decided to not show 'The Interview', essentially meaning the movie wouldn't be seen by a majority of North American audiences.
I haven't heard that. If true, there wasn't much point in showing it. In fact, that's what I just heard on the news...
Yup - releasing it was pointless: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12/18/theater-chains-opting-not-to-show-the-interview
I thought that I originally heard that Sony announced that they would not object and let theaters out of their contractual obligation to show the movie. Then many of the major chains took them up on the offer. Some had not yet announced they would not air it but Sony then withdrew it totally.
Sorry it took so long. This is the article that made me believe that there was some threats of repercussion if they didn't pull the picture.
http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/12/hackers-promise-christmas-present-sony-pictures-wont-like/
And this is the report saying they decided to pull it due to many theaters deciding not to show it.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...prompts-movie-chain-to-pass-on-the-interview/
That isn't to say the missile angle isn't a valid one, I just haven't seen anything about it.
Edit: Wow I am late to the party. Sorry for posting stuff you guys had already heard, need to remember to scroll down and read the rest before replying to something from 3 days ago.
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Its being reported that NK is experiencing total internet shutdown. Not sure how they can tell
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102289459
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102289459
From a friend on Facebook:
Further North Korea demands for Hollywood
1. Every movie theater in the United States must play nothing but Battlefield Earth for the entire month of February to remind Americans that capitalism is doomed to failure.
2. Sean Connery records that “you the man now, dog” line for Dear Leader’s ringtone.
3. Remove the scene from the end of Armageddon where Bruce Willis says goodbye to Liv Tyler and it has nothing to do with anyone crying, you stinking imperialist dogs.
4. Next James Bond: Don Knotts.
5. For Andie to choose Duckie. I mean, come on already.
6. Could someone please explain Mulholland Drive already?
7. We have just been informed Don Knotts died in 2006. We rescind that request and are sorry for your loss.
8. Sentence the parents from The Parent Trap to 50 years hard labor. Who does that to their children?
9. Alternate ending to It’s A Wonderful Life where the citizens of Bedford Falls declare a people’s utopia and execute Mr. Potter in the name of the revolution.
10. Gritty reboot of Space Jam.
Further North Korea demands for Hollywood
1. Every movie theater in the United States must play nothing but Battlefield Earth for the entire month of February to remind Americans that capitalism is doomed to failure.
2. Sean Connery records that “you the man now, dog” line for Dear Leader’s ringtone.
3. Remove the scene from the end of Armageddon where Bruce Willis says goodbye to Liv Tyler and it has nothing to do with anyone crying, you stinking imperialist dogs.
4. Next James Bond: Don Knotts.
5. For Andie to choose Duckie. I mean, come on already.
6. Could someone please explain Mulholland Drive already?
7. We have just been informed Don Knotts died in 2006. We rescind that request and are sorry for your loss.
8. Sentence the parents from The Parent Trap to 50 years hard labor. Who does that to their children?
9. Alternate ending to It’s A Wonderful Life where the citizens of Bedford Falls declare a people’s utopia and execute Mr. Potter in the name of the revolution.
10. Gritty reboot of Space Jam.
Sony Entertainment Announces Limited Release of 'The Interview'
Looks like they changed their mind again
Looks like they changed their mind again
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Re: Sony Entertainment Announces Limited Release of 'The Interview'
Cool. And a win for the little independent guys that are usually locked out of big name movies by the big guys.
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