You are starting to sound like a delusional Auburn fan. You would not have enjoyed playing Ole Miss or Miss St this year. Enjoy Cooper going for 80 and a touchdown early. The Buckeyes would have 2. -3 losses in the SEC west this year.
Bama first team OSU faces with more talent
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Would you like to point out exactly where I said they had? Don't put words in my mouth. It's rude. Thank you.
Your delusion is getting worse. hammered? See- your Buckeyes have NO idea what it is like to play in this league week to week. You are down to a 3rd string QB. There is a reason Urban left this league. The Big 10 was really bad this year. And you WILL NOT be able to run the ball. Take that to the bank.
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Hate to burst your bubble but Ohio St is not the best team Bama will have played this year. Perhaps with Braxton Miller you could say that. Not with your 3rd team QB.
You probably need to watch your tone. A few of the mods on here do not tolerate arrogant comments such as this one. People on here are extremely well informed. And most of the country fully expects the Tide to handle the Buckeyes.
You're viewpoints seem to be based on recruiting rankings only. That will get you in trouble. Ole Miss would have won vs Ohio St by 2 touchdowns earlier in the year. You clearly have your Pope Urban glasses on here.
There are two basic things you need to have as a foundation to build a really good team on ...players and coaching.
The old football saying is "it ain't the X's and O's, it's the Jimmy's and Joe's". At this level you're not gonna "scheme" your way to a national championship.I went back over the last five recruiting classes for each school (2010-2014, the players that can actually play in the game) and figured the average star rating (Rivals) for each class. While some eschew recruiting rankings and stars, the correlation between top recruiting classes and top programs is undeniable. It's hard to quantify the talent level at each school, there are early departures, non-qualifiers, overachievers, underachievers etc., but these happen at every school, and, depending on which recruiting site you look at, the numbers will vary slightly, but this will give a general view of the talent the respective coaches had to work with. The average star rating for the last five signed classes were, #1 Bama-3.81, #2 tOSU-3.61, #3 FSU-3.60, and #4 Oregon-3.35. To put that in perspective, Florida was 3.67, LSU 3.61, and Auburn 3.58. Advantage...Bama
Coaching is only about 10% schemes (X's and O's) and in game decisions, 90% of it is recruiting, developing, and motivating players. Coach Bryant said something to the effect of it's not the will to win, but the will to prepare to win. You don't win games on Saturday, you win 'em during practice and the off season...and CNS is the best there is at that. I would rank the coaches as #1 CNS, #2 UM, #3 JF, and #4 MH. Advantage...Bama
While it's true, when you combine talent and coaching,IMO, tOSU is the toughest team we've faced so far...slightly. But it's also true that when you combine coaching and talent, Bama is the best team tOSU has played...by far. If you look at those three games,UF, LSU, and Auburn, the teams closest to tOSU talent wise, the one weakness they all had in common was qb play. Gary Danielson said many times this year that to beat Bama you need "elite" qb play. Can tOSU get it with their third string qb? Is it possible? Sure. Is it likely? Not very.
To sum it up, does all this guarantee a Bama win? Not by a long shot, but I'm glad we're going into this shoot out with two fully loaded six-shooters.
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The old football saying is "it ain't the X's and O's, it's the Jimmy's and Joe's". At this level you're not gonna "scheme" your way to a national championship.I went back over the last five recruiting classes for each school (2010-2014, the players that can actually play in the game) and figured the average star rating (Rivals) for each class. While some eschew recruiting rankings and stars, the correlation between top recruiting classes and top programs is undeniable. It's hard to quantify the talent level at each school, there are early departures, non-qualifiers, overachievers, underachievers etc., but these happen at every school, and, depending on which recruiting site you look at, the numbers will vary slightly, but this will give a general view of the talent the respective coaches had to work with. The average star rating for the last five signed classes were, #1 Bama-3.81, #2 tOSU-3.61, #3 FSU-3.60, and #4 Oregon-3.35. To put that in perspective, Florida was 3.67, LSU 3.61, and Auburn 3.58. Advantage...Bama
Coaching is only about 10% schemes (X's and O's) and in game decisions, 90% of it is recruiting, developing, and motivating players. Coach Bryant said something to the effect of it's not the will to win, but the will to prepare to win. You don't win games on Saturday, you win 'em during practice and the off season...and CNS is the best there is at that. I would rank the coaches as #1 CNS, #2 UM, #3 JF, and #4 MH. Advantage...Bama
While it's true, when you combine talent and coaching,IMO, tOSU is the toughest team we've faced so far...slightly. But it's also true that when you combine coaching and talent, Bama is the best team tOSU has played...by far. If you look at those three games,UF, LSU, and Auburn, the teams closest to tOSU talent wise, the one weakness they all had in common was qb play. Gary Danielson said many times this year that to beat Bama you need "elite" qb play. Can tOSU get it with their third string qb? Is it possible? Sure. Is it likely? Not very.
To sum it up, does all this guarantee a Bama win? Not by a long shot, but I'm glad we're going into this shoot out with two fully loaded six-shooters.
:biga::biga::biga:That's assuming that the only meaningful games ever played are national championship games
What's VaTech's average recruiting ranking for the last four years???? Recruiting rankings have nothing to do with winning a football game. It helps if you're trying to compare talent; but not if you're trying to predict outcomes of games. The reality is that Ole Miss spent time at #1 this season and the majority of the season ranked ahead of OSU (and the rest of the teams on OSU's schedule). To think they would be favored/predicted to win against OSU is not that much of a stretch.
I expect it to be a heck of a game, and coaches on both sides will dig deep into their rosters before the end of the game. Whether that's by necessity or just allowing younger players some reps yet to be seen.
And we shall see.
And we shall see.
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This is true. Last year I went back as far as recruiting rankings went (2000) and the teams who have won a NC since 2000 have finished in the TOP 10 in recruiting 95% of the time. This is why we never see Virginia Tech, Kansas State, UCLA, Wisconsin or Mississippi State win the National Championship game. These teams are plenty good enough to upset top teams, but the recruiting is not there for the Title.
Using this formula, Alabama has averaged finishing #1, OSU #4 and FSU #5 for the past four seasons. Either of these could win the Title based on recruiting. Oregon? #16. Anything can happen, but I don't see Oregon pulling this off because of recruiting.
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You know, Alabama cant win this game even if we do win. If Alabama wins big, then everyone will say that we just beat a weak overmatched/overrated team from the Big 10. That is when the "Baylor/TCU should have been there because they would have beat Alabama" comments will begin. If we somehow manage to lose against Ohio State, then that gives all of the SEC haters ammo to slam the SEC.
Everyone we beat is automatically "Overrated" in the eyes of the SEC and Crimson Tide haters.
Lose/Lose for us. Our only salvation is winning it all and I like our chances in doing so.
Your team doesn't have the pressure and isn't capable of playing big in pressure packed games like Alabama does. Every game we play the team is under pressure and close scrutiny. It doesn't matter if we are playing The Citadel or the Dallas Cowboys, our team is always under the microscope. Alabama has been there and done that, Ohio State hasn't. The Buckeyes are in for an extreme rude awaking when this game kicks off. Your team hasnt faced an OL or DL like ours all year long. That Freshman QB of yours will be running for his life and throwing into the teeth of a Kirby Smart/Nick Saban defense. Trust me, your team will not win if we bring the A-game. If both teams bring the A-game, then we'll beat you by 10-14 points. If we bring the A-game and you the B-game, we win by 21+. If we play the B-game and you the A-game, we still win by 3-7 points. You're overmatched.
Also, I am confident that Georgia, Mizzou, LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss or Miss State could also beat Ohio State. Heck, LSU beat the Big 10 runner up. So if Ohio State happened to lose to Wisky in that game, would that had made LSU the honorary Big 10 champion? LOL
ROLL DAMN TIDE
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So then, I guess you didn't hear all the platitudes from the talking heads early this year, especially after the Ole Miss loss, saying how some teams 'owned' CNS and that Bama was 'over' and that CNS had lost it? How CNS coached teams had lost three or four in a row against top ranked teams?
You don't think the same stuff wouldn't start up about Urby losing big games and being in danger of becoming the next 'Big Game/Big Mouth Bob?' That he steamrolled the B1G except for the one or two middling decent teams and then couldn't step up in the big games against superior competion? Not sure how long you've been a Bucks fan but for the past 15 -20 years they really haven't had many regularly scheduled games where they were worried about the outcome prior to kickoff, can't say that about Bama.
BTW, very enjoyable poster, pls come back after the game so we can hear your updated opinions!
Edit Post: I do agree tho, first ballot HOF coach IF he continues coaching in the B1G for the rest of his career (kind of like CJF in the pitiful ACC), if he moves on to the golden dome I reserve the right to change my opinion...
This! It's also why other fantasies will never understand us. They just don't get it.
Sparring on sites like this can be really draining. You won't convince Bama fans we aren't the better team....
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