Because this board has high standards.....

B1GTide said:

Because you get to decide what is worthy of celebration? I don't watch many of the weaker bowls, but I wouldn't think of taking them away when they cost me nothing.

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This is my opinion, and it is kind of off topic but not completely. Quite a few years ago, society began rewarding every kid who was on a team or in any kind of contest by giving them a trophy because they didn't want to damage anyone's self esteem. It didn't matter if you were the worst player/contestant on the worst team...you got a trophy. Many (not all) of those kids began thinking "hey, all I gotta do is show up and I get rewarded" and they grew up with a sense of entitlement. (I teach high school. I see it EVERY DAY.) We stopped teaching kids how to win with grace and lose with dignity and we spouted the phrase "you are ALL winners" even if they were blown out in every game they played. I relate this to bowl games because those 6-6 teams aren't winning teams, yet they are being rewarded. Yeah, getting to the playoffs and then to the championship game has a bigger reward than the Random Sponsor Bowl in the middle of downtown Nowhere, but those guys on teams with winning record have done something to earn a bowl. You may disagree completely, and if so, that's fine, but as a fan, I wouldn't think Bama deserved a bowl bid with a 6-6 record.

Now we're trying to solve the world's problems? I thought that we were talking about football games? :conf3:

also wins over IAA teams used to not count towards bowl eligibility

DzynKingRTR said:

also wins over IAA teams used to not count towards bowl eligibility

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I think that those rules are the same - one can count every two or three years of play.

B1GTide said:

Now we're trying to solve the world's problems? I thought that we were talking about football games? :conf3:

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Not trying to solve the world's problems...just saying that my opinion is that the 85 guys who actually have a winning record are more deserving of a bowl bid than those who don't.

tmv85 said:

Not trying to solve the world's problems...just saying that my opinion is that the 85 guys who actually have a winning record are more deserving of a bowl bid than those who don't.

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I would never argue with that point. Were any left out for teams with a 6-6 record?

tmv85 said:

This is my opinion, and it is kind of off topic but not completely. Quite a few years ago, society began rewarding every kid who was on a team or in any kind of contest by giving them a trophy because they didn't want to damage anyone's self esteem. It didn't matter if you were the worst player/contestant on the worst team...you got a trophy. Many (not all) of those kids began thinking "hey, all I gotta do is show up and I get rewarded" and they grew up with a sense of entitlement. (I teach high school. I see it EVERY DAY.) We stopped teaching kids how to win with grace and lose with dignity and we spouted the phrase "you are ALL winners" even if they were blown out in every game they played. I relate this to bowl games because those 6-6 teams aren't winning teams, yet they are being rewarded. Yeah, getting to the playoffs and then to the championship game has a bigger reward than the Random Sponsor Bowl in the middle of downtown Nowhere, but those guys on teams with winning record have done something to earn a bowl. You may disagree completely, and if so, that's fine, but as a fan, I wouldn't think Bama deserved a bowl bid with a 6-6 record.

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Same here. Spot on.

I really like it here so I am going to shut up and log off for the night before I get suspended.

crimsonaudio said:

Think harder? It's about the winning percentage (and always has been - 'winning record' was the NCAA standard until the change in 2006), not '6 wins'. You're focusing on the wrong thing. If there was a 14 game regular season, 6 wins would be meaningless.

If you want to ask me to 'think harder', at least know the standards we're discussing.

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As a note, I don't believe the standard prior to 2006 was always a winning record. There are examples of teams with losing records being selected. I don't recall the date, but at some point in my lifetime I believe the minimum 6-5 record was instituted.

B1GTide said:

I really like it here so I am going to shut up and log off for the night.

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Me too and in spite of our differing opinions B1G is still my favorite tOSU fan.

UGA currently not finishing well. Only up by 13 with more than 9 minutes left.

Louisville thankfully crapped itself again. INT by UGA.

Oops...I'll move over to the correct thread.

Wow... what a thread.

I agree that the "everyone gets a trophy" and the "you're ALL winners!" nonsense is a large part of what is wrong with this country today.

But I disagree that's related to the proliferation of bowl games and allowing teams with 6-6 or even 6-7 records to play in them. That is all about tv dollars. I wouldn't be entirely shocked to someday see enough bowl games so that every single team got to play in one. Quit watching them and they'll go away...

They ought to pull some furniture out of that palace of an office that stoops has. Maybe a card table and a cheap microwave would be more appropriate.

You guys do understand that by earning, and maintaining a scholarship on a division one football team that these guys are pretty successful already? They beat six other teams full of similar athletes. Maybe if you step back and look at it from another angle.

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TDBama78 said:

They ought to pull some furniture out of that palace of an office that stoops has. Maybe a card table and a cheap microwave would be more appropriate.

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They should move his office to one of the public men's rooms. After the crap he's been putting on the field lately, it seem rather appropriate.