Do the refs slow the game next year?

CrimsonPassion

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Not whining, but does anyone think they will implement a rule to slow down these HUNH teams? I remember there was some talk of it and they used an extra referee in a few games, right? Anyway, it would be nice to see a little defensive strategy again instead of just running up and down the field all night. Thoughts?
 

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Not whining, but does anyone think they will implement a rule to slow down these HUNH teams? I remember there was some talk of it and they used an extra referee in a few games, right? Anyway, it would be nice to see a little defensive strategy again instead of just running up and down the field all night. Thoughts?
I remember thinking during the Oregon vs FSU game that the refs were running to place the ball so that Oregon could run the play as fast as possible. Several less than ten seconds of being tackled. No way can the refs be set and defense have a chance to be in position before the snap. Pansie football is what it is.
 
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CrimsonPassion

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I remember thinking during the Oregon vs FSU game that the refs were running to place the ball so that Oregon could run the play as fast as possible. Several less than ten seconds of being tackled. No way can the refs be set and definitely the defense have a chance to be in position. Pansie football is what it is.
Agreed. I also noticed it during the Rose Bowl. Some players had not even made it off the field yet when the ball was snapped. I know a lot of people like it because it's exciting but, frankly, I think it's ridiculous.
 

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The only way to slow the game would be with a rule change. The rule would have to be something like teams must huddle unless 2 minutes or less in the half, or a team falls behind by a certain number of points. The future of the HUNH will be decided by a battle between football purists and those who enjoy a lot of points being scored. Right now those in favor of high scoring are winning the battle.
 

CrimsonPassion

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The only way to slow the game would be with a rule change. The rule would have to be something like teams must huddle unless 2 minutes or less in the half, or a team falls behind by a certain number of points. The future of the HUNH will be decided by a battle between football purists and those who enjoy a lot of points being scored. Right now those in favor of high scoring are winning the battle.
I know. We purists need to start making more noise!!
 

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The only way to slow the game would be with a rule change. The rule would have to be something like teams must huddle unless 2 minutes or less in the half, or a team falls behind by a certain number of points. The future of the HUNH will be decided by a battle between football purists and those who enjoy a lot of points being scored. Right now those in favor of high scoring are winning the battle.
Sorry, but I don't think that'll ever happen. It would have even arguably hurt us this year since we usually were better when we didn't huddle.

The simple fix is a ref needs to stand over the ball until all the refs and chain gang folks are in place. Pure and simple. This still gives teams the opportunity to "go fast" but it will not be at the expense of refs not being in place to call penalties.
 

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The only way to slow the game would be with a rule change. The rule would have to be something like teams must huddle unless 2 minutes or less in the half, or a team falls behind by a certain number of points. The future of the HUNH will be decided by a battle between football purists and those who enjoy a lot of points being scored. Right now those in favor of high scoring are winning the battle.
It is because scoring for the "novel" or "newbie" fan offers them some sort of enjoyment. Football purist can find excitement in a 10-7 game like the baseball purist can find it in a 2-1 game. For the NCAA, NFL, etc. it is about the number of eyes watching the game. They know they have the purist fan locked in for the love of the game. The novel fan will tune in and stay tuned in if teams are running up and down the field. If not, they'll flip over and watch "Real Housewives of Chattanooga".

Why is it that slot machines in the casinos are so popular? Because unlike poker, or blackjack, or craps where you need to understand the game, a slot machine is "stick you money in and pull the lever". For the novel football fan, scoring and wide open offense is pulling the lever on the slot machine. It keeps their attention.
 

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One other point I'd like to mention is an issue CNS has brought up in the past about the HUNH and player safety. I don't want anyone to take what I'm about to say the wrong way. I certainly don't want to see it happen, but if a game ever gets played on a very hot day with a HUNH team involved and a player collapses on the field (especially a defensive player) it would cause the NCAA to take a very serious look at the HUNH.
 

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Sorry, but I don't think that'll ever happen. It would have even arguably hurt us this year since we usually were better when we didn't huddle.

The simple fix is a ref needs to stand over the ball until all the refs and chain gang folks are in place. Pure and simple. This still gives teams the opportunity to "go fast" but it will not be at the expense of refs not being in place to call penalties.
I agree and until the officials take control and clearly define the pace of the game this will continue.
 

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I see nothing wrong with going without a huddle or with a fast tempo, but when it reaches a point of exploiting the rules to where you run plays without the refs in position to make calls or the defense being able to get lined up, it mocks the essence of the game (which, to me, is two teams lined up against one another with an equal chance of making a play).

The baseball equivalent would be a pitcher throwing a pitch before the batter can get into the batter's box. Or a basketball team inbounding the ball and scoring while the other team is still in a timeout huddle or replacing a fouled-out player. In those sports, the umpire or referee determined when everything is set and when play can begin. In football, the refs--and not the offense--should make that determination as well. Otherwise, it becomes a mockery.
 

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Nope - they won't slow the game. It's going to keep getting worse and worse -- and when you start having 105-98 games -- THEN maybe someone will scream -- STOP THE MADNESS! But, no -- they won't change the rules.....at least not next year.
 

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This whole business of the clock keeps running even on out of bounds plays - except for the last 2 minutes of a half is crazy as well.

If you go out of bounds - the clock stops....all the time.....is how it should be
 

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This whole business of the clock keeps running even on out of bounds plays - except for the last 2 minutes of a half is crazy as well.

If you go out of bounds - the clock stops....all the time.....is how it should be
I agree. One of the worst rule changes I've ever seen.

Supposedly it was done to shorten the game, but instead they just have more TV timeouts for commercials. It was about money all along.
 

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This whole business of the clock keeps running even on out of bounds plays - except for the last 2 minutes of a half is crazy as well.

If you go out of bounds - the clock stops....all the time.....is how it should be
I agree. One of the worst rule changes I've ever seen.

Supposedly it was done to shorten the game, but instead they just have more TV timeouts for commercials. It was about money all along.
 

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The ironic thing is that Coach Saban was a strong supporter of going to the 40 second clock, thinking that it would allow teams with a lead and the ball to shorten the end of games as stated above. The whole HUNH deal has turned it on its head.
 

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Not whining, but does anyone think they will implement a rule to slow down these HUNH teams?
I don't want to see the refs do anything to slow the game. What I do want is consistency. Regardless of which ref it is or what teams are playing, I want them to do it EXACTLY the same way every time. They shouldn't be running because UO wants to go fast any more than they should be walking slowly because 'bama wants to slow it down. As long as there is consistency, then it's up to the coaches & players to come up with the most effective strategy, which is as it should be.
 

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