Doesn't matter if the lineman is engaged or not. If it's a pass past the LOS, the OL can't go more than 3 yards past the LOS.
Rule Change Proposal: Ineligible Man Downfield Decreased to One Yard
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I wouldn't say it's a spread thing. It's a read option thing. Spread is a formation you can use in a lot of offenses and one of those is a read option. We've run variations of the spread (3 and 4 receiver sets) for several years, we just ran more pro-style plays out of it instead of read-option. Even guys like Bob Stoops have said this needs to be fixed and they definitely run a spread based offense.
I think this would be much easier to enforce as it's easier for a ref to estimate a yard off the LOS than 3 AND it's really easy to see if they are engaged with a defender. i.e. it would basically eliminate the OL from being able to release from the LOS unless they were already blocking a DL and just happened to end up pushing them downfield.
I'm glad it's this way now, but wouldn't even need this rule change if the refs would've enforced the old rule. Let's see if they'll enforce this.
Even if it doesn't pass, I am glad to see that the officials have recognized that they cannot be in a position to make the correct call often enough with today's offenses. If they are not willing to change the rules then they need to be willing to put more officials on the field. Downfield blocking before a pass is thrown is illegal for a reason - it makes certain plays impossible to defend. If the officials are not in a position to make these calls, even the best defenses have no chance.
Seeking more clarification for our UF friends - does it matter if the guy you are blocking downfield is a teammate or opponent?
Please, please, please let this pass. Oh please. I've been......relatively good Santa and I won't ask for anything else this year..
Officials didn't make this proposal. It comes from the rules committee, which is coaches and administrators.
I'm for almost any rule change that limits the amount of "interpretation" or "judgment" by officials on this rule. For the linesman, head linesman and umpire, it should be much easier to determine a one yard zone than a three yard zone.
Assuming their seeing eye dogs got plenty of rest the night before....
Assuming their seeing eye dogs got plenty of rest the night before....
Most fans don't know the difference between the HUNH and the Spread/ Read-Option. Sometimes a Vinn diagram is helpful so that they understand that one is a philosophy and the other is an actual offense.
My GBA490 professor advised us that if we were ever going to steal money, STEAL BIG. His reasoning was that if you stole a few thousand dollars you were going to get caught, put on trial, conficted, and put in jail. If you stole a million dollars the company would be too afraid of having their stock price crash and they would sweep it under the rug not really worrying about you.
Gus Malzhan and a number of other coaches knew many of their plays were technically illegal but they were betting that if they ran it fast enough and they did it often enough that the refs would either be unable or unwilling to see it or throw flags on every given play. They knew they would occasionally get flagged but they also knew they would sometimes get huge game changing plays that they wouldn't otherwise get. They just played the numbers game and won. They probably knew the gig would be up this year, my guess is they have been looking for other weaknesse to exploit. It's sort of sad that this sort of attitude passes for OK in our society. We allow anything from anybody as long as they win, are rich, famous or beautiful.
Gus Malzhan and a number of other coaches knew many of their plays were technically illegal but they were betting that if they ran it fast enough and they did it often enough that the refs would either be unable or unwilling to see it or throw flags on every given play. They knew they would occasionally get flagged but they also knew they would sometimes get huge game changing plays that they wouldn't otherwise get. They just played the numbers game and won. They probably knew the gig would be up this year, my guess is they have been looking for other weaknesse to exploit. It's sort of sad that this sort of attitude passes for OK in our society. We allow anything from anybody as long as they win, are rich, famous or beautiful.
Never said that the officials proposed the rules change, but they were a leading force. I have heard the B1G and Big 12 officiating crews talk about this many times over the last 2 seasons, and the SEC to a lesser degree. The officials have made it clear that they cannot be everwhere that they need to be to make some of these calls with the speed and play associated with these new offenses. They may not have proposed the rule change, but their public recognition of this problem can't hurt.
That was exactly the point to my post. Most simply do not understand the difference.....
Now that made me smilejust in case folks needed to see what play we are talking about
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