Gary Patterson Wants All Conference Championship Games Eliminated

jcabama · Feb 14, 2015

RollTide1017 said:
It's February, time to stop crying Gary... I have.

Well, maybe just a sniffle now and then!

GrayTide · Feb 14, 2015

WylieTexasTider said:
Agree 100%... Pattersn was interviewed on several local DFW stations and not once did he complain about the 4 teams who got in the playoff. He was very consistent with had they beat Baylor, they would have been in the playoff. Said he knew Saturday night OSU was going to get in and told his team win every game next year....Briles on the other hand cried enough to end the Texas drought...

I remember Patterson being interviewed on ESPN shortly after the 4 teams were named and he pretty much said what was said above.

scrodz · Feb 14, 2015

A four team playoff with two play-in games? Not a bad suggestion, and one that was considered along with everything else right from the start. The problem is that you CAN'T come up with a system that can address every single issue, and once you start "tweaking" the system, where do you stop? Remember the early BCS rankings, when they changed them every year to address last season's issues, and ended up creating new issues every season? There's a difference between one quirky season and an inherent problem with the system, but if you keep changing the system, you'll never find out what the real problems are. This system isn't perfect, but we need to stay with it for long enough to find out how it really works.

Con · Feb 14, 2015

scrodz said:
A four team playoff with two play-in games? Not a bad suggestion, and one that was considered along with everything else right from the start. The problem is that you CAN'T come up with a system that can address every single issue, and once you start "tweaking" the system, where do you stop? Remember the early BCS rankings, when they changed them every year to address last season's issues, and ended up creating new issues every season? There's a difference between one quirky season and an inherent problem with the system, but if you keep changing the system, you'll never find out what the real problems are. This system isn't perfect, but we need to stay with it for long enough to find out how it really works.

Just like a good science experiment, you can only change one variable at a time.

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uafanataum · Feb 14, 2015

Con said:
Just like a good science experiment, you can only change one variable at a time.

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I would like to change about 13 of them right now but that will never happen as long as they keep the drama and ratings up.

Bob Minton · Feb 14, 2015

I agree, I saw a couple interviews with him after the season. I was very impressed that he really didn't whine. Now, I'm sure he's politicking because right now he doesn't have a level playing field, but that's the Big 12's fault. Interesting thought about championship games. I always have dread the SEC one because Bama is usually in a position to lose more than they are to gain but that's a small sample size.

RTR91 said:
No one should take this as Patterson' whining about being left out of the playoff. He never did that. Art Briles was the one that turned into a newborn.

NCTide · Feb 14, 2015

What else is he gonna say? He's gotta protect his team's interests, and he can't force the league into a Conference Championship Game. Any coach would say the same.

bamacon · Feb 14, 2015

Oh just avoid allowing 20+ point leads to vanish in the same game...twice!!!

GrayTide · Feb 15, 2015

I know this has been said before and would not be a popular option, but having conference champions only does clearly define and makes the selection process simple. You can make a strong case (with possibly the exception of 2011) that if you are not good enough to win your own conference championship you are not good enough to be included in the playoff system. A 12 game season is retained and only two teams play 15 games. The bowls can still be used to host the playoffs. The selection committee could be done away with and the rankings could be done with some BCS type model to seed the conference champions 1-8. To me the big benefit is that it defines inclusion without the element of any human bias.

Islander · Feb 15, 2015

Then we would hear complaints about seeding.

dWarriors88 · Feb 15, 2015

I think what we have here is someone, Gary, who is so jelly that he's actually craving peanut butter.

PA Tide Fan · Feb 15, 2015

It makes no sense for the rest of college football to make changes to accommodate one conference. The only thing that does make sense is for the one conference to make the changes needed to get in line with everyone else.

jef0071 · Feb 15, 2015

briles had every reason to be ....ed, and he was more ....ed at the big 12 commissioner than he was anyone else...the big 12 screwed baylor....neither baylor nor tcu had a right to be in that playoff

RTR91 said:
No one should take this as Patterson' whining about being left out of the playoff. He never did that. Art Briles was the one that turned into a newborn.

G8RNGA · Feb 17, 2015

PA Tide Fan said:
It makes no sense for the rest of college football to make changes to accommodate one conference. The only thing that does make sense is for the one conference to make the changes needed to get in line with everyone else.

This. If we really want to get to a 8-team playoff (or more), the conference championship game is the first elimination.

RTR91 · Feb 17, 2015

jef0071 said:
briles had every reason to be ....ed, and he was more ....ed at the big 12 commissioner than he was anyone else...the big 12 screwed baylor....neither baylor nor tcu had a right to be in that playoff

So Art Briles had "every reason" to be mad even though neither team had a right to be in the playoff? Please explain.

BamaJama17 · Feb 17, 2015

Shut up Gary...

bamaga · Feb 17, 2015

I wonder if Gary will get raked over the coals for wanting rules changed like CNS ?

HSV_1969 · Feb 17, 2015

bamaslaw said:
I think I would prefer 8, 10 team conferences that play each other over the course of the season. Conference champions go to the playoffs. No whining, no beauty pageant, no politics.

This sounds great, but it certainly won't guarantee the best 8 teams. Think back to the 2011 season. LSU and Bama are ranked 1 & 2, yet come from the same conference. In the scenario you propose of "8 conferences, and only the champs get in an 8 team playoff"; a scenario is almost certainly going to happen where one or two of the 8 conferences aren't particularly competitive. So going back to 2011 model, likely a 2 or 3 loss champion from one or two of the conferences (maybe ranked around 18-20 in the polls) is going to get in over the consensus #2 team in the country. I get the simplicity, but I don't like the format.

crimsonaudio · Feb 17, 2015

Never mind, I'm a moron - I was thinking about Art Briles...

RTR91 · Feb 17, 2015

I'm still trying to figure out what Gary Patterson said that has folks so upset at Gary Patterson.

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