No Big Bang? Quantum equation predicts universe has no beginning.

mittman · Feb 13, 2015

http://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html

Not sure whether to contemplate, laugh, or just shrug. I remember having a conversation a little while back with a physicist about the location of the supposed singularity and the origination of the original mass. I was showing him an article where another physicist was trying to explain that every point is the center because everything is expanding away from everything else (I never could understand the force vectors involved in that line of thinking). This will throw him for a loop.

Go Bama · Feb 13, 2015

Bohmian trajectories, gravitons, quantum fluid, dark energy, big bang, geodesics, quantum gravity, singularity

These equations could also be used to describe what happens when you're on the can.

mittman · Feb 13, 2015

Go Bama said:
Bohmian trajectories, gravitons, quantum fluid, dark energy, big bang, geodesics, quantum gravity, singularity

These equations could also be used to describe what happens when you're on the can.

Is that how the balloon we are all sitting on got full of gas?

NationalTitles18 · Feb 13, 2015

The science is settled. These Big Bang deniers need to be shamed. (Not quite blue font)

jthomas666 · Feb 13, 2015

Brian Williams says the Big Bang Happened. And he was there.

Bamaro · Feb 13, 2015

If it has no beginning, can it have an end?

Tide1986 · Feb 13, 2015

Bamaro said:
If it has no beginning, can it have an end?

And do we really exist?

Bama Reb · Feb 13, 2015

Tide1986 said:
And do we really exist?

Yes, we exist. We just don't matter.

Tide1986 · Feb 13, 2015

Bama Reb said:
Yes, we exist. We just don't matter.

Nice pun.

Jon · Feb 13, 2015

mittman said:
http://phys.org/news/2015-02-big-quantum-equation-universe.html

Not sure whether to contemplate, laugh, or just shrug. I remember having a conversation a little while back with a physicist about the location of the supposed singularity and the origination of the original mass. I was showing him an article where another physicist was trying to explain that every point is the center because everything is expanding away from everything else (I never could understand the force vectors involved in that line of thinking). This will throw him for a loop.

see this is exactly what is fantastic about science. After models are built, tests are done, things are debated we will throw out the old antiquated theory and move on to a much better one or we'll find out that the new theory is inadequate and the old still provides us with the best possible answer, or we'll postulate a new theory even better than the prvious.

what we don't do is just say "it's magic"

KentuckianaBFan · Feb 13, 2015

jthomas666 said:
Brian Williams says the Big Bang Happened. And he was there.

He was standing behind the Singularity when it was hit by an RPG...that's what caused it to expand...and then later, here we are...

mittman · Feb 13, 2015

Jon said:
see this is exactly what is fantastic about science. After models are built, tests are done, things are debated we will throw out the old antiquated theory and move on to a much better one or we'll find out that the new theory is inadequate and the old still provides us with the best possible answer, or we'll postulate a new theory even better than the prvious.

what we don't do is just say "it's magic"

I don't disagree. If there is a problem for me it is when theories start being presented as fact.

Bamabuzzard · Feb 13, 2015

mittman said:
I don't disagree. If there is a problem for me it is when theories start being presented as fact.

Yep. Up until this little discovery or change in theory you'd have "science" people argue you down if you suggested there was no big bang. The arrogance of Bill Nye comes to mind. But what you don't see is when the theories change, these dbags stepping forward and admitting how wrong they were. All they do is take the new theory and argue it as fact like the old theory that was just proven wrong. What do you call that?

GreatDanish · Feb 13, 2015

If there is anything that blows my mind, it is either the size of the universe, or thinking about the origin of the universe. Maybe y'all are smarter than me but if I dwell on either question for too long, my jaw just begins to drop.

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NationalTitles18 · Feb 13, 2015

Bamabuzzard said:
Yep. Up until this little discovery or change in theory you'd have "science" people argue you down if you suggested there was no big bang. The arrogance of Bill Nye comes to mind. But what you don't see is when the theories change, these dbags stepping forward and admitting how wrong they were. All they do is take the new theory and argue it as fact like the old theory that was just proven wrong. What do you call that?

Climate change?

Bama Reb · Feb 14, 2015

GreatDanish said:
If there is anything that blows my mind, it is either the size of the universe, or thinking about the origin of the universe. Maybe y'all are smarter than me but if I dwell on either question for too long, my jaw just begins to drop.

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I've asked the question before, ''How deep is 'space'?'', but have yet to receive an answer. But of course no one has ever been to ''the end'' of space so how could we ever answer it?

92tide · Feb 14, 2015

GreatDanish said:
If there is anything that blows my mind, it is either the size of the universe, or thinking about the origin of the universe. Maybe y'all are smarter than me but if I dwell on either question for too long, my jaw just begins to drop.

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Bamabuzzard · Feb 14, 2015

Is this a case where "theory" was really a uh, theory. Not like the "You really don't understand what theory means in the science field" lingo that comes from folks when the unclean say "That's why they call it a theory because it can't be proven as fact." Or is this a different kind of "theory" in the science field?

92tide · Feb 14, 2015

Bamabuzzard said:
Is this a case where "theory" was really a uh, theory. Not like the "You really don't understand what theory means in the science field" lingo that comes from folks when the unclean say "That's why they call it a theory because it can't be proven as fact." Or is this a different kind of "theory" in the science field?

this is the scientific method working

TIDE-HSV · Feb 14, 2015

Tide1986 said:
And do we really exist?

According to quantum mechanics, only when observed...

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