State dept spokes person says ISIS needs jobs to end radicalism

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i have read the article. We've a thread on it over at AUFamily.

You are going to have to do something for the aftermath that gives these folks something else to live for or they will just come back and this will be a neverending war. Killing them all isn't a good solution. There will simply be more to take their place in the long run.
These folks don't care about after the war. They long to live in the caliphate or die and go to heaven. Period. Jobs don't matter when your welfare is provided for or you are in heaven. Sheesh. Denial ain't just a river.
 

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There is some truth to the jobs statement. Whether it is in the Muslim world (ISIS) or inner cities (gang violence) those with little to lose and more to gain are impressionable and looking for something better than what they have and join up with these things. Jobs for everyone wont end a movement like ISIS but it can mitigate it.
In the end, the ISIS movement is more about power/money than religion. "Wars" generally are.
Denial. You are in denial. Many academics are in denial. The president is in denial. "Surely no one can be that crazy!". Don't call me Shirley and yes, they can.
 

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Short list of ISIS jobs:

gallows builder, cage maker, fire starter. scimitar sharpener, whip wielder, slave master, technical writer for sex slave manuals, mask weaver, orange execution suit maker.
 

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Its only a similarity as to motivation of some. One size does not fit all.
As with any insurgency, there are (1) some insurgents that will never agree to stop. These must be killed or rendered so hopelessly powerless that nobody cares they are still alive.
(2) Others might be able to be convinced that the jihad is not what they thought it was sitting in front of their computers in their home country and now want to quit and go home.

In a "normal" insurgency (one without the religious otherworldly overtones of this one), Category 1 insurgents are relatively few and there are a lot of Category 2 insurgents who can be convinced to give it up because the cause is hopeless (Philippine Insurgency 1899-1902) or because the cost of continuing is too high (Boers in S. Africa) or because the political goal sought will be achieve as soon as the fighting stops (Malaya 1960, Algeria 1962).

In this one, I would wager that the Cat 1 bubbas are abnormally high. They just need to be killed in place. The Cat 2 bubbas will have trouble finding jobs when they get home, which is a cause for concern. Arab countries tend to have high population growth rates which makes it hard to find a job, but Syria has achieve a -9.73% growth rate. It must be a worker's paradise.
 

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