Hillary's E-Mail Problem

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This is why...

Thanks for posting this. I had planned to but you beat me to it.

These are the idiots, imbeciles, and morons that I was talking about! They must have just come out of their caves.

I don't think you could use the totality of your fingers and toes to add up the sum total of their collective IQ's! What percentage of Socialists Democrats or of all Americans are this STUPID? Did Newton's apple or something heavier hit them on the head?

They can't think for themselves so they want HRC to do it for them. In the words of that great American, "Give me liberty or give me death". Looks like it's going to be the latter with at least 50% of Americans thinking like this. Our educational system has really gotten horrendous! Were those graduates of that Berkley campus or Aliens from the planet in our universe that houses the most stupid people in the universe?
 

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Thanks for posting this. I had planned to but you beat me to it.

These are the idiots, imbeciles, and morons that I was talking about! They must have just come out of their caves.

I don't think you could use the totality of your fingers and toes to add up the sum total of their collective IQ's! What percentage of Socialists Democrats or of all Americans are this STUPID? Did Newton's apple or something heavier hit them on the head?

They can't think for themselves so they want HRC to do it for them. In the words of that great American, "Give me liberty or give me death". Looks like it's going to be the latter with at least 50% of Americans thinking like this. Our educational system has really gotten horrendous! Were those graduates of that Berkley campus or Aliens from the planet in our universe that houses the most stupid people in the universe?

The interviewer deserves an Emmy! There is no way I could keep a straight face while listening to those morons...
 

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would really love to see this guy explain to these people what the Bill of Rights is. Apparently none of them know.
In fairness, if a passerby responded, "Hillary has not said she wants to repeal the BoR." he would not make the broadcast.
At least I hope somebody that Dice accosted responded that way.
 

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I told my wife that when he was running. Sanders is too old also. McCain was about three years older than I. Sanders is two years younger. I'm too old. The job requires physical stamina and late hours, sometimes. When you have someone too old and out of touch, you get a "shadow government" to move into the void. That happens sometimes, even with a younger presidents. We don't age at the same rate. I was still playing competitive basketball against guys in their 30s, most of whom had played small college ball, when I was 62. However, when you get to 70, or on the verge of it, all bets are off. And that's the class most of the front runners in the polls fall into. Jeb is the youngster...
On January 20, 2017.....

Hilary Clinton will be 69
Bernie Sanders will be 75
Joe Biden will be 74
Donald Trump will be 70
Jeb Bush will be 63
 

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They can't think for themselves so they want HRC to do it for them. In the words of that great American, "Give me liberty or give me death". Looks like it's going to be the latter with at least 50% of Americans thinking like this. Our educational system has really gotten horrendous! Were those graduates of that Berkley campus or Aliens from the planet in our universe that houses the most stupid people in the universe?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Pretty much sums up 99% of the demonrat voters. I would say 100%, but the few I know actually try to justify their beliefs. Some have the faith of their convictions, and some............well, I got a buddy mad at me today, when I told him O'DumboCare sucked. He related a story about how someone he knew was on vacation, on some remote Greek island, and how they had to be 'coptered, to a larger island, when he broke his leg. (Skin diving, I believe.) He was then had to be moved to the mainland, and a larger hospital. And it only cost him $1200! We are stupid because we can't do that.

When I mentioned that is why Greece is going broke, and told me I was nuts. He doesn't think Greece is broke.
 

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Biden, who is not yet even running is now out polling HC in some respected polls. I can not see her escaping this and being elected POTUS. The dems will have to sooner or later realize this and nominate someone else or else just hand the election to the reps.

On another note. From a legal standpoint, not what you would like to happen or not like to happen, if it can be proven that she directed someone to go beyond simply deleting emails and actually asked them to "wipe the server", is this a criminal act of destruction of evidence?
 
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Biden, who is not yet even running is now polling HC in some respected polls. I can not see her escaping this and being elected POTUS. The dems will have to sooner or later realize this and nominate someone else or else just hand the election to the reps.

On another note. From a legal standpoint, not what you would like to happen or not like to happen, if it can be proven that she directed someone to go beyond simply deleting emails and actually asked them to "wipe the server", is this a criminal act of destruction of evidence?
It would depend on when she wiped the hard drive. If it happened after the server was subpoenaed by some law enforcement agency or she had reason to believe it would be, then yes.
Until it is subpoenaed, I would bet it is private property, to do with as she wished. It certainly speaks to her intent, however, not that her supporters are going to care a whit.
Now, someone else telling a woman about to go into a grand jury "She came onto me, right?" and "We were never alone together, right?" that is witness tampering, which is a felony. How much time did he do for that felony?
 

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Biden, who is not yet even running is now out polling HC in some respected polls. I can not see her escaping this and being elected POTUS. The dems will have to sooner or later realize this and nominate someone else or else just hand the election to the reps.

On another note. From a legal standpoint, not what you would like to happen or not like to happen, if it can be proven that she directed someone to go beyond simply deleting emails and actually asked them to "wipe the server", is this a criminal act of destruction of evidence?
I am starting to believe she is toast, and nothing pleases me more.

I am also starting to believe the Democrats are toast because they have been coasting during the Obama administration and were banking on Hillary winning easily and now have no realistic backup plan.

I'll never count out the Republicans to screw it up, though.
 

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It would depend on when she wiped the hard drive. If it happened after the server was subpoenaed by some law enforcement agency or she had reason to believe it would be, then yes.
Until it is subpoenaed, I would bet it is private property, to do with as she wished. It certainly speaks to her intent, however, not that her supporters are going to care a whit.
Now, someone else telling a woman about to go into a grand jury "She came onto me, right?" and "We were never alone together, right?" that is witness tampering, which is a felony. How much time did he do for that felony?
Two things get me about this.

1. She keeps making these snide remarks. "Wipe? You mean like with a cloth? I really don't get how these things work." Seriously, anyone in her position and with her background who DOESN'T know the basics of DOD standards for wiping a hard drive to is ridiculously willfully ignorant.
2. Since this was farmed out to an IT firm. (Instead of really being a "home brewed" server sitting in Chappaqua or somewhere). I find it VERY hard to believe that there were no backups and disaster recovery, of some sort. As someone in a smaller IT firm than them, and who does hosted Exchange on a small scale for our clients, I would NEVER leave myself open to complete loss of my client's data, I could get sued by them if they were required to respond to a court order, and I could not provide what the court order required. IF the server was dedicated to her account (usually not the case, but sometimes) and the drive was completely wiped by them it would almost HAVE to be at her direction.

IMO her reactions are making it worse for her instead of better.
 

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I thought the FBI has had that server for a week now and is currently trying to restore files or emails to see what was deleted.

ETA: http://www.waff.com/story/29835200/clinton-lawyer-says-her-email-server-was-wiped-clean
I'm no techie, but from what I've heard, there are two ways to wipe the hard drive. Delete the offending files, then save new data over that sector of the hard drive (which is harder to do than you might think, since the old data was stored in some sectors, and the new data might not be stored in the exact same sectors, so you basically need to fill up (or nearly so) the drive, and to be more sure repeat this process several times.
The other technique (made popular in the Vince Foster case) was give the computer a command (like defrag the drive) and then, while its working, pick it up and drop it from five feet above the floor. No data will ever come off that drive (unless, I suppose its a solid state drive, which poor Vince did not have).

If it can be recovered, however, I'd bet the FBI can do it.
 
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I'm no techie, but from what I've heard, there are two ways to wipe the hard drive. Delete the offending files, then save new data over that sector of the hard drive (which is harder to do than you might think, since the old data was stored in some sectors, and the new data might not be stored in the exact same sectors, so you basically need to fill up (or nearly so) the drive, and to be more sure repeat this process several times.
The other technique (made popular in the Vince Foster case) was give the computer a command (like defrag the drive) and then, while its working, pick it up and drop it from five feet above the floor. No data will ever come off that drive (unless, I suppose its a solid state drive, which poor Vince did not have).

If it can be recovered, however, I'd bet the FBI can do it.
There's also a plain old degaussing magnetic field.
 

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I'm no techie, but from what I've heard, there are two ways to wipe the hard drive. Delete the offending files, then save new data over that sector of the hard drive (which is harder to do than you might think, since the old data was stored in some sectors, and the new data might not be stored in the exact same sectors, so you basically need to fill up (or nearly so) the drive, and to be more sure repeat this process several times.
The other technique (made popular in the Vince Foster case) was give the computer a command (like defrag the drive) and then, while its working, pick it up and drop it from five feet above the floor. No data will ever come off that drive (unless, I suppose its a solid state drive, which poor Vince did not have).

If it can be recovered, however, I'd bet the FBI can do it.
A DOD "wipe" requires seven passes of overwrite with random data. Deletion doesn't really delete anything at all; it just makes the file available for overwrite...
 

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A DOD "wipe" requires seven passes of overwrite with random data. Deletion doesn't really delete anything at all; it just makes the file available for overwrite...
That's is what I thought (making available for overwrite). I was unaware of the "seven passes" standard. Makes sense.
 

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A DOD "wipe" requires seven passes of overwrite with random data. Deletion doesn't really delete anything at all; it just makes the file available for overwrite...
Yup. "Deleting" a file just tells the system managing the storage on the drive that the space is available. Edges of the write can still have recoverable data if someone just did one write over the whole drive.Totally different for solid state, but I doubt the server had solid state drives. I would not expect her to know the specifics, but trying to pull off that she is completely unfamiliar is a stretch Elsasta-Girl couldn't pull off.

Her remarks have been way too flippant. Not that she ever had a chance with me on policy grounds, but I think her response is hurting her more than the actual fact that she used a private email account. The fact that there has been a suspicious amount of lost email and lack of recovery from those on her side of the isle isn't helping either.

I don't think she is toast quite yet, but the cartoon with her dragging an @ is pretty accurate. It is not going to go away.
 

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