If offered, I hope he accepts it. How reliable is this person when it comes to rumors?From Twitter. TIFWIW..
If offered, I hope he accepts it. How reliable is this person when it comes to rumors?From Twitter. TIFWIW..
That's Ryan Brown, the JOX radio host. JessN retweeted it, too.If offered, I hope he accepts it. How reliable is this person when it comes to rumors?
I agree with what Coach Sanderson said the other day about him not "fitting in" in Tuscaloosa. Plus I'm not a big fan of his "style" or "philosophy"!Curious, how come?
Sure it's been mentioned somewhere upthread but what's Marshall's current gig worth?From Twitter. TIFWIW..
I think this 2X what he is making.Sure it's been mentioned somewhere upthread but what's Marshall's current gig worth?
That type of money talks!
Thanks! Went and looked it up after I posted, but then the forum wouldn't let me edit to add.I think this 2X what he is making.
The money is for him to take it to that level!A couple of things to things...Grant $4M buyout will not be an issue in new coach salary. He most likely will get gig at George Mason or comparable if he wants to coach next year. So will technically negate buyout over next 4 years.
I think Prohm or White will be the most likely choice. Both are up and comer's...but not sure either will excite fan base. I think both would be good coaches and an improvement over Grant.
Not sure will take chance on Howland, Capel type or Tom Crean's even a possibility. Absolutely laughable we would offer Marshall $3.5 million...that's top 10 money and unfortunately our program is not at that level (sorry but being brutally honest). This opinion is coming from a BB season ticket holder for over 10 years.
We have to pay a premium to get a coach like that. It will take a lot to get him away from WSU. I'd much rather pay him over the other options.A couple of things to things...Grant $4M buyout will not be an issue in new coach salary. He most likely will get gig at George Mason or comparable if he wants to coach next year. So will technically negate buyout over next 4 years.
I think Prohm or White will be the most likely choice. Both are up and comer's...but not sure either will excite fan base. I think both would be good coaches and an improvement over Grant.
Not sure will take chance on Howland, Capel type or Tom Crean's even a possibility. Absolutely laughable we would offer Marshall $3.5 million...that's top 10 money and unfortunately our program is not at that level (sorry but being brutally honest). This opinion is coming from a BB season ticket holder for over 10 years.
That's a cherry picked statistic and I'd say it's misleading as well. What terrifies me about Crean is what his teams do after he supposedly has a program on track. At Marquette, after his team makes the final four, he follows that up with two 19 win/NIT seasons. That's 19 wins at a mid-major, you'll actually have trouble finding any of these coaches we are bringing up who had a single 19 win season at a mid-major (after theyg got going), much less two in a row. That is very ominous when you consider the low level of competition and that you can recruit instant impact players. He did that at Indiana to, after the mediocre use of talent with the Sweet 16 runs, he followed that up with a 17 win season. That's not good either. We're talking about things that have never happened to coaches like Bruce Pearl (heck Bruce won 15 at Auburn last year, Auburn that's better than any of Crean's first three years at a basketball power), and Gregg Marshall. So, it's not just his slow start, it's not just his regression at Marquette, his failing do anything with a loaded team, or his 17 win season at Indiana, it's the combination that's scary.Big difference in the two, IMO, is that Crean's record has improved 13 out of the 16 years he's been a head coach, and one of the years his record got worse was due to a job change. Davis' teams have only improved in 7 of 15 years. Crean makes programs better, Davis makes programs worse. But, none of that matters anyway since neither will be our head coach. But I really like the idea of a guy whose teams actually get better year to year.
I am convinced the only thing holding the Alabama program back is the coaching (said this before the last hire to, also said Alabama should hire a proven coach then as well). Yes, football fixation is an issue. Had Alabama not been so fixated on football, they would already have a very good coach (Bruce Pearl). However, Gregg Marshall checks all the boxes. He's done more than any Alabama coach, ever. He's never shown real regression, he's been to the final four, he's been to NCAA tournament 11 times (at mid-majors), that's as many as Alabama has been in going back to 1990, he's young enough to have a real impact, I believe he's 3-1 against Alabama, and he probably wants a chance to win a championship as badly as Alabama does.Absolutely laughable we would offer Marshall $3.5 million...that's top 10 money and unfortunately our program is not at that level (sorry but being brutally honest). This opinion is coming from a BB season ticket holder for over 10 years.
I just don't understand this mentality. We're the second winningest SEC program of all time. Several schools across the country have proven you can be good/great at both at the same time. Our fanbase is large enough, our income is high enough.Basketball at Alabama has always been "something to do after January until Spring Practice" -- that's never going to change. Basketball will always be a DISTANT #2.....
When Wimp was here, it was still that way. We had (at one point) 9 guys playing in the NBA that wore Bama Unis......we had one team that I believe had 5 future NBA players on it.....
1991-1992 featured Horry, Sprewell, Hollywood, Eric Washington and Jason Caffey..... (and I'm sure there were others) -- a 26 win season.....
Looking at Attendance for some of the early games of 1992-1993 (the next season)
Home game vs Wichita 7170
Home game vs So Miss 6350
Home game vs Tn State 3413
Home game vs A&M 7392
We only averaged 9K for all home games (including SEC games) and this was in the Plaid Palace days.....
We just need to realize - Hoops will never be anything big.....just big enough is what we are hoping for.
I love Bama Basketball, always have.....but we sort of need to know our place.....which is -- a Football school that can win year in and year out in Hoops -- but the fans will never fully support it.
Definitely don't agree......if Tennessee (back in Bruce pearls day) and Florida and Texas and Michigan can be successful at both then so can Alabama....even LSU is gaining popularity in basketball and getting better every year.....we just need the right coachBasketball at Alabama has always been "something to do after January until Spring Practice" -- that's never going to change. Basketball will always be a DISTANT #2.....
When Wimp was here, it was still that way. We had (at one point) 9 guys playing in the NBA that wore Bama Unis......we had one team that I believe had 5 future NBA players on it.....
1991-1992 featured Horry, Sprewell, Hollywood, Eric Washington and Jason Caffey..... (and I'm sure there were others) -- a 26 win season.....
Looking at Attendance for some of the early games of 1992-1993 (the next season)
Home game vs Wichita 7170
Home game vs So Miss 6350
Home game vs Tn State 3413
Home game vs A&M 7392
We only averaged 9K for all home games (including SEC games) and this was in the Plaid Palace days.....
We just need to realize - Hoops will never be anything big.....just big enough is what we are hoping for.
I love Bama Basketball, always have.....but we sort of need to know our place.....which is -- a Football school that can win year in and year out in Hoops -- but the fans will never fully support it.
That's your opinion, and you are perfectly entitled to it. It is my opinion that you are far too harsh on Crean, and you are cherry picking your own statistics.That's a cherry picked statistic and I'd say it's misleading as well. What terrifies me about Crean is what his teams do after he supposedly has a program on track. At Marquette, after his team makes the final four, he follows that up with two 19 win/NIT seasons. That's 19 wins at a mid-major, you'll actually have trouble finding any of these coaches we are bringing up who had a single 19 win season at a mid-major (after theyg got going), much less two in a row. That is very ominous when you consider the low level of competition and that you can recruit instant impact players. He did that at Indiana to, after the mediocre use of talent with the Sweet 16 runs, he followed that up with a 17 win season. That's not good either. We're talking about things that have never happened to coaches like Bruce Pearl (heck Bruce won 15 at Auburn last year, Auburn that's better than any of Crean's first three years at a basketball power), and Gregg Marshall. So, it's not just his slow start, it's not just his regression at Marquette, his failing do anything with a loaded team, or his 17 win season at Indiana, it's the combination that's scary.
So, honestly Crean terrifies me. He only seems capable of having a really good season if he has a lottery pick on his team (and that's a true rarity for Alabama) and even with lottery picks, he's capable of underwhelming. That's why Indiana fans hate him, they had to suffer through some lousy seasons, and then when he was stacked with talent he didn't even make it out of the Sweet 16. At Alabama he'd have seasons where the talent isn't there and his track record indicates he's not going to do well at all in those situations.
I am convinced the only thing holding the Alabama program back is the coaching (said this before the last hire to, also said Alabama should hire a proven coach then as well). Yes, football fixation is an issue. Had Alabama not been so fixated on football, they would already have a very good coach (Bruce Pearl). However, Gregg Marshall checks all the boxes. He's done more than any Alabama coach, ever. He's never shown real regression, he's been to the final four, he's been to NCAA tournament 11 times (at mid-majors), that's as many as Alabama has been in going back to 1990, he's young enough to have a real impact, I believe he's 3-1 against Alabama, and he probably wants a chance to win a championship as badly as Alabama does.
In terms of what level the program is at, Alabama has shown their attendance can be around the top 25, even with Gottfried, they had a program that made it to the Elite 8, and had a #1 ranking once, their coach pay is already top 25, and their athletic program is making so much money they don't know what to do with it all. If they show they are willing to pay this much for a top tier coach, they will have a chance to become a top 10 program, the resources are all there but yes things have to change and that starts with the head coach. Basically, the way I see it if Alabama wants to be a top ten program (and they can be), they have to start acting like one.