New coach search...

imauafan · Mar 30, 2015

Rama Jama said:
FYI, The Crimson Tide Foundation plane is shielded from view on Flight Aware so they can move about freely without everyone on earth knowing where they are at any given time. N1UA I think.

This is from BoL:

Athletic department rarely uses UA plane. More often a private plane. Saban has used this jet several times

RedStar · Mar 30, 2015

KrAzY3 said:
Why? Most of the posts here are of little substance, but Texas has been one of the major topics, as has been the case in a couple Nick Saban threads as well. As far as I'm aware the position is still open is it not? This is not a Gregg Marshall thread, this is a coaching search thread.

It's a coaching search thread, for Alabama, on an Alabama message board. If I wanted to read about a school I don't care about, I'd check out another forum.

I don't go to Chick-Fil-A and ask for a Burger King menu.

Tide1986 · Mar 30, 2015

RedStar said:
It's a coaching search thread, for Alabama, on an Alabama message board. If I wanted to read about a school I don't care about, I'd check out another forum.

I don't go to Chick-Fil-A and ask for a Burger King menu.

I believe the point of all of his Barnes talk is that Barnes is a reasonable second choice if we are unable to land Marshall.

Rama Jama · Mar 30, 2015

I agree. I just think they will use the foundation plane to bring him to T-town, not B'ham. Why would Battle fly out of B'ham when he can drive to the Tuscaloosa Airport which is much closer. If I were a prospective coach, I'd want to check out the facilities and city before making a decision without everyone knowing I am doing so. If I decided to keep my present job, I'd have plausible deniability.

bamamick · Mar 30, 2015

The deal about the radio show being cancelled: just after they bowed out of the Sweet 16 wouldn't you want your coach (or at least someone on the staff) to come on, discuss the game, thank the fans and pump them up about what bright prospects there are for the future? Of course, someone probably made a (wise) decision that it would turn into nothing but a 'are you leaving' thing and if he does decide to stay they can re-schedule it, but it seems to me as if this IS a sign that his mind is not on Wichita right now.

rtr

KrAzY3 · Mar 30, 2015

RedStar said:
It's a coaching search thread, for Alabama, on an Alabama message board. If I wanted to read about a school I don't care about, I'd check out another forum.

I don't go to Chick-Fil-A and ask for a Burger King menu.

Ok, Rick Barnes is available.
Secondly, Texas is a major competitor in terms of vacancies.

I won't go off topic and debate, debating further, but the idea that I can only discuss coaches in the coaches search thread that people want to talk about is a bit asinine. Tom Crean was a hot topic here for a while, but I was intentionally limiting my scope to the merits of what a good coach is or isn't, what the criteria for looking for a coach should or shouldn't be, who was available, etc...

Nothing I said was completely off topic, it was all relevant, and while I do apologize that my disparaging remarks about Texas might have offended some, or my saying Barnes is a good coach might have offended some, I don't apologize for passing the time discussing you know, available coaches and what are good attributes in a coach.

RedStar · Mar 30, 2015

Tide1986 said:
I believe the point of all of his Barnes talk is that Barnes is a reasonable second choice if we are unable to land Marshall.

I don't think anyone would be happy with Barnes.

bamamick · Mar 30, 2015

Tide1986 said:
I believe the point of all of his Barnes talk is that Barnes is a reasonable second choice if we are unable to land Marshall.

He'd certainly work for me as a stop-gap coach for the next five years or so. Of course, if Marshall does come to Alabama he could very well jump at the next UNC/Duke/Kansas/UK job that comes open, couldn't he?

rtr

TrampLineman · Mar 30, 2015

Tide1986 said:
I believe the point of all of his Barnes talk is that Barnes is a reasonable second choice if we are unable to land Marshall.

That's definitely not what all of us think.:biggrin:

KrAzY3 · Mar 30, 2015

bamamick said:
He'd certainly work for me as a stop-gap coach for the next five years or so. Of course, if Marshall does come to Alabama he could very well jump at the next UNC/Duke/Kansas/UK job that comes open, couldn't he?

rtr

My statements about Barnes all along were that he was a plan B type of guy, if Alabama can get Marshall (or Smart) they should. But yeah, Barnes would be a great emergency hire if people (Barnes included probably) could swallow personal feelings. Fortunately that probably won't happen... oh and they're talking about Barnes on the radio now (in respect to the Alabama opening), I should call them and ask them to stop.

CrimsonMapper · Mar 30, 2015

Rama Jama said:
If I were a prospective coach, I'd want to check out the facilities and city before making a decision without everyone knowing I am doing so. If I decided to keep my present job, I'd have plausible deniability.

WSU played in Tuscaloosa last year, so he's probably somewhat familiar with the facilities.

imaloyalone · Mar 30, 2015

Rama Jama said:
I agree. I just think they will use the foundation plane to bring him to T-town, not B'ham. Why would Battle fly out of B'ham when he can drive to the Tuscaloosa Airport which is much closer. If I were a prospective coach, I'd want to check out the facilities and city before making a decision without everyone knowing I am doing so. If I decided to keep my present job, I'd have plausible deniability.

Awesome... got new plans for the afternoon/evening now. I'm going to head over to the airport and stake it out for the next 8-10 hours.

CrimsonChuck · Mar 30, 2015

The title of this thread is "New coach search". It doesn't say what coach. Or even what sport. :biggrin2:

Alasippi · Mar 30, 2015

KrAzY3 said:
What seems to be missing here is that Barnes, in 20 years, did what the Texas program did in 60 years. If their expectations are so warped, that they expected him to not just be their best coach, to not just have the most success, but to far eclipse what they ever accomplished, they're just a bunch of drooling lunatics.

The only reason they had any reasons for high expectations was solely because of what Barnes himself accomplished. They are not a basketball power, they never have been, but Barnes gave their program unprecedented success, and they got it into their silly little heads that somehow that was a failure on his part.

If he's been to the tourney 19 out of 20 years then he's done an outstanding job, and it really doesn't matter what university or alumni expectations may be. I've always thought he was a pretty good coach.

wsims74 · Mar 30, 2015

More importantly he has not been listed as a candidate in any article.. Why don't we stick with serious candidates only..

Originally Posted by Tide1986
I believe the point of all of his Barnes talk is that Barnes is a reasonable second choice if we are unable to land Marshall.

He'd certainly work for me as a stop-gap coach for the next five years or so. Of course, if Marshall does come to Alabama he could very well jump at the next UNC/Duke/Kansas/UK job that comes open, couldn't he?

CB4 · Mar 30, 2015

BAMARICH said:
Awesome... got new plans for the afternoon/evening now. I'm going to head over to the airport and stake it out for the next 8-10 hours.

I say we just "fan out". Operatives cover all major airports within a 100 mile radius of Tuscaloosa and Wichita. We'll get to the bottom of this.

TitleWave · Mar 30, 2015

Tide1986 said:
I believe the point of all of his Barnes talk is that Barnes is a reasonable second choice if we are unable to land Marshall.

Reasonable second choice in the Coaches-with-Underperforming-Talented-Players-Don't-Finish-First-and-Don't-Get-Very-Far-in-the-Big-Dance category. Or the point of it all could just be that Wichita State wants to hire Barnesy when Marshall jumps.

KrAzY3 · Mar 30, 2015

Alasippi said:
If he's been to the tourney 19 out of 20 years then he's done an outstanding job, and it really doesn't matter what university or alumni expectations may be. I've always thought he was a pretty good coach.

Heh, not to step on toes here and bring up him up again, but I inadvertently included what he did at Clemson. It's 19 out of the past 20, but just 16 out of 17 I think at Texas. But yeah, I so hope that if Alabama gets Marshall people don't get insane expectations and expect a final four every year or something, people need to be realistic.

wsims74 said:
More importantly he has not been listed as a candidate in any article.. Why don't we stick with serious candidates only..

Heh, ok well an article said Gregg Marshall wasn't interested, so I guess no Marshall talk? May be articles don't mean much...

CrimsonMapper said:
WSU played in Tuscaloosa last year, so he's probably somewhat familiar with the facilities.

Considering how often he's played Alabama, I suppose there's a lot of mutual knowledge about the respective coaches/programs which seemed to make it that much easier for Alabama to focus on him. Alabama knows what his teams look like, so there is a lot of familiarity.

RedStar · Mar 30, 2015

Alasippi said:
If he's been to the tourney 19 out of 20 years then he's done an outstanding job, and it really doesn't matter what university or alumni expectations may be. I've always thought he was a pretty good coach.

He couldn't make it past the Elite 8 with one of the greatest basketball players of this generation, Durant.

There are worse coaches out there for sure, but at 60, he's probably peaked in terms of coaching. I can't see him coming to Alabama and doing something he couldn't do at Texas. I haven't seen him mentioned as a candidate by any source outside of this thread. If we're just throwing names in a hat, let's at least throw in names we'd want. Next.

Alasippi · Mar 30, 2015

KrAzY3 said:
My statements about Barnes all along were that he was a plan B type of guy, if Alabama can get Marshall (or Smart) they should. But yeah, Barnes would be a great emergency hire if people (Barnes included probably) could swallow personal feelings. Fortunately that probably won't happen... oh and they're talking about Barnes on the radio now (in respect to the Alabama opening), I should call them and ask them to stop.

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