And now Jonathan Taylor....again

davefrat · Mar 31, 2015

saban says he gave the guy a second chance, others say saban took a chance on him.

both could be correct.

BamaDynasty · Mar 31, 2015

I have zero doubt that CNS talked to everyone he could about JT and this was a university decision. Sure, he's a great FB player, BUT I sincerely believe CNS felt he could help the young man.

The documented fact that he's stayed in former players' lives and offered them guidance and assistance (Jimmy Johns, Jamarcus Russell, Ro McClain, etc.) shows that he cares.

He was wrong on this one, it bit him in the tail, he said he was sorry for how it all worked out and he's moving forward.

For anyone (fans, media, rivals) to "pile on" and take glee in this is sad. The young lady hopefully will be okay and JT will have to serve his punishment, probably go the HBCU route, and probably end up playing on Sundays.

Tideflyer · Mar 31, 2015

I`m sorry, but are there actually people calling for CNS to resign? There`s so much static, verbiage, etc., to wade through.

Rush · Mar 31, 2015

B1GTide said:
I think that I understand why Saban refuses to demonize Taylor right now. If Taylor doesn't have someone in his corner, he could really disappear into a dark place. Saban feels something for Taylor and refuses to abandon him in spite of the criticism that he knows will come from this decision. I see this as a sign of Saban's character, not an ego problem.

I can't speak to Taylor as a good person/bad person. I just have no idea. I have known good men and women who had problems that led to unacceptable actions. With help, maybe Taylor can overcome his problems. But when the problems lead to repeated violence against anyone, it is time to leave all forms of violence in the past - and football is about as violent as you can get in a sport.

I hope that Taylor finds what he needs before he really hurts someone.

Good post, as usual, B1G...

im4uainva · Mar 31, 2015

Tideflyer said:
I`m sorry, but are there actually people calling for CNS to resign? There`s so much static, verbiage, etc., to wade through.

I'm hoping it wasn't me you were referring to as "calling for CNS to resign". I did make that comment in reference to those not completely satisfied with CNS's press conference. But I can't recall anyone actually posting that thought. I guess I should have put that in blue also. And I think I will. Thanks for pointing that out.
Roll Tide!

CrimsonNagus · Mar 31, 2015

im4uainva said:
Really though, fellow Tiders, I just don't know what some of you want CNS to do.

For starters, never, ever recruit someone with pending felony charges again. Let the law get done with them first. Then, if you think you can be a good influence on them, take a chance. That's all I ask from this situation.

im4uainva · Mar 31, 2015

RollTide1017 said:
For starters, never, ever recruit someone with pending felony charges again. Let the law get done with them first. Then, if you think you can be a good influence on them, take a chance. That's all I ask from this situation.

That's fair enough. It would help if one could get a fair and speedy trial (does that happen anymore?).

Roll Tide!

wishbonedays · Mar 31, 2015

BamaDynasty said:
For anyone (fans, media, rivals) to "pile on" and take glee in this is sad. The young lady hopefully will be okay and JT will have to serve his punishment, probably go the HBCU route, and probably end up playing on Sundays.

It is sad, but unfortunately there are more than enough media types and "social commentators" who never let an opportunity pass to do just that, to pile on...and yes hopefully the young lady is OK, and learns from this episode too, and is able to move forward.
One thing that I thought of, it makes you wonder if this backlash could affect a future decision on what could be a truly deserving person, who desperately needs a 2nd chance. Although I'm sure its left a bad taste in Coach Saban's mouth, I also feel that he's a man of integrity and wouldn't allow this to affect his judgment or discretion.

bamabelle1991 · Mar 31, 2015

B1GTide said:
I think that I understand why Saban refuses to demonize Taylor right now. If Taylor doesn't have someone in his corner, he could really disappear into a dark place. Saban feels something for Taylor and refuses to abandon him in spite of the criticism that he knows will come from this decision. I see this as a sign of Saban's character, not an ego problem.

I can't speak to Taylor as a good person/bad person. I just have no idea. I have known good men and women who had problems that led to unacceptable actions. With help, maybe Taylor can overcome his problems. But when the problems lead to repeated violence against anyone, it is time to leave all forms of violence in the past - and football is about as violent as you can get in a sport.

I hope that Taylor finds what he needs before he really hurts someone.

I really miss the "like" and "thank" buttons! I LOVE this post and THANK you for it!! Agree!

bama579 · Mar 31, 2015

In addition to all the off-field headaches this is generating, a look at the roster and who will likely be leaving after this season [A Robinson, J Reed, Pettway, Allen maybe] is a bit unsettling. We could be thin on the DL in 2016.

Tideflyer · Mar 31, 2015

im4uainva said:
I'm hoping it wasn't me you were referring to as "calling for CNS to resign". I did make that comment in reference to those not completely satisfied with CNS's press conference. But I can't recall anyone actually posting that thought. I guess I should have put that in blue also. And I think I will. Thanks for pointing that out.
Roll Tide!

No, not at all. In all the volumes of stuff, I`ve just recollected seeing the word "resign" a few times.

Catfish · Mar 31, 2015

im4uainva said:
That's fair enough. It would help if one could get a fair and speedy trial (does that happen anymore?).

Roll Tide!

You can have a fair trial. You can have a speedy trial. I'm not sure it's possible to have a fair AND speedy trial.

GrayTide · Mar 31, 2015

Opposing camps on Tidefans as to whether Coach Saban's decision was right or wrong serves no purpose except for some posters to attack other posters. What is done is done and cannot be undone.

BamaMark. · Mar 31, 2015

GrayTide said:
Opposing camps on Tidefans as to whether Coach Saban's decision was right or wrong serves no purpose except for some posters to attack other posters. What is done is done and cannot be undone.

Agreed! Turns out it was a bad decision. We ALL make them so give the man a break... He's right a hell of a lot more than he's wrong...

Tider6972 · Mar 31, 2015

GrayTide said:
Opposing camps on Tidefans as to whether Coach Saban's decision was right or wrong serves no purpose except for some posters to attack other posters. What is done is done and cannot be undone.

True.
What those who care about the integrity of The University must do is assure it doesn't happen again that we Go Looking for trouble,proven bad-guy trouble, such as this.

BamaPokerplayer · Mar 31, 2015

My main issue with something like this is that there is very little upside. It just seems to go against the discipline Saban preaches, and the long term thinking that is the essence of the process. If CNS comes down hard on a player, I can see him thinking, at least I don't hit women. Hopefully, we learn and move on.

ALA2262 · Mar 31, 2015

NCTide · Mar 31, 2015

Quick question on the matter; how does someone with pending felony charges even get admitted to the University...???

Tideflyer · Mar 31, 2015

NCTide said:
Quick question on the matter; how does someone with pending felony charges even get admitted to the University...???

I`d like to think not, especially since UA is my alma mater, but could the fact that he`s 6`4" and 335 and very quick for someone his size have anything to do with it?

NCTide · Mar 31, 2015

Tideflyer said:
I`d like to think not, especially since UA is my alma mater, but could the fact that he`s 6`4" and 335 and very quick for someone his size have anything to do with it?

You may just be right... I'm ashamed

And now Jonathan Taylor....again

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