Moore's Law turns 50
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It is mind boggling what has happened in the last 50 years with technology and where it will go in the next 50. I remember the first TI hand held calculator I saw when I was a senior at the University, $399 and it was nearly the size of my iPad.
We'd better come up with something soon. We're very close to hitting the limit on how small we can make transistors.
What is more dramatic to me is that we went from Wright Brothers to P51's, B29's, and Me262's in the span of a little over 40 years.....and that is before the calculator. It was all done by slide rule and trial and error.
that was a really good article. I'm so used to shoddy tech journalism I guess
I built a PC with my son for his birthday. He wanted a PS4 I wanted to show him that he could build a system that outperformed a PS4 for less and this is exactly what we did. He has more compute power for $450 than was in systems I sold for in the millions a decade ago.
we went from the Wright brothers to the Moon in less that 70 years and don't forget the SR71 was and still is officially the fastest plane on earth and was designed completely without computers
I'd love to hear more. I've looked for robotics stuff for my 15 y.o., but it's all kits and really costly. I'm structural, not mechanical or electrical, so that whole area is foreign to me. The websites seem to be either a cookbook kit that is expensive or here is 80 pages of parts, just figure it out. I would love something in the middle, but haven't had any luck yet.
Yah, Moore said as much in 2005:
"In terms of size [of transistors] you can see that we're approaching the size of atoms which is a fundamental barrier, but it'll be two or three generations before we get that far—but that's as far out as we've ever been able to see. We have another 10 to 20 years before we reach a fundamental limit. By then they'll be able to make bigger chips and have transistor budgets in the billions."
We are almost there with current tech. No telling what, if any, developments might push us past the current (perceived?) barrier...
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And he nailed it with the low end of his prediction. 10 years later and transistors with atoms numbered in the single digits have been realized. Purdue even claims to have made a functional transistor with a single Phosphorus atom.
Graphene, GaN or some similar leap will keep us advancing, but I won't be surprised if Moore's Law has a hiccup in the near future.
Thanks a bunch. This may be a good going back to school project. Right now we're neck deep in planning a coming of age trip. Now that I've picked the location, gotten permits, and about to buy airplane tickets, he gets to plan the rest. We're going to go backpacking in the Sierra's and doing an off trail scramble up a mtn. We're doing one a little over 12k. There are 14'ers around, but 12 is plenty a good climb when you live at an elevation of 600' or so
wow, that's beautiful, enjoy that one and PM me if you decide to build and need help. I had my boy do most himself with me watching, thought I didnt want pins bent so I installed the processor myself he did most everything else
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