Just read the article about the protestors and even the writer doesn't know what the protest was about:
Vet and former Playboy model Michelle Manhart scuffles with cops while trying to..
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Hey Bazza, if folks have a protest shouldn't they publicize the reason? LOL The protesters are missing a golden opportunity for a bunch of free publicity.Just read the article about the protestors and even the writer doesn't know what the protest was about:
Somehow I find walking on the flag less concerning then calling for the next secession/civil war.
I'm of the mind of burn my flag and I'll bust your (bun) and walking on it is the same to me. Men and women of all colors have given their life so that the protester's have the right of free speech and you speak with your mouth not your feet. People need to treat the flag with the respect and remember it is a representation of all of America. You want to protest the idiots in Washington, please do and I don't care what else you protest, it is your right but leave the American flag out of it.
I was in the Air Force during the time MM did her thing and was just a bit outraged over her stunts with the flag. From the military side, it was offensive and she needed to be discharged. From the American male side of it, I studied the evidence before I made a decision.
I was in the Air Force during the time MM did her thing and was just a bit outraged over her stunts with the flag. From the military side, it was offensive and she needed to be discharged. From the American male side of it, I studied the evidence before I made a decision.
Those who call for war have never spent any time studying it. There's literally no one, other than the evil or insane, who would desire war.
It's entirely disrespectful and deplorable and I'm left wondering why they don't just get the hell out of this country if they hate it so much.
Yes, it is free speech, although I don't think it's logical to suggest that it should have been. Either way, it is. So they can do it legally. But I am, like others here, concerned what would happen if we held a Koran burning ceremony and walked on pictures of Muhammad. Not about the Muslim response... I know what that would be. But I wonder what the response of Americans would be. Especially these clowns walking on the American flag.
Yes, it is free speech, although I don't think it's logical to suggest that it should have been. Either way, it is. So they can do it legally. But I am, like others here, concerned what would happen if we held a Koran burning ceremony and walked on pictures of Muhammad. Not about the Muslim response... I know what that would be. But I wonder what the response of Americans would be. Especially these clowns walking on the American flag.
Freedom of Speech does have limits.......
The Federal Government has determined that "Separation of Church and State" gives people the right to silence Speech that they don't agree with......
The Federal Government has determined that "Separation of Church and State" gives people the right to silence Speech that they don't agree with......
It could be argued that they were insane, attacking the Brits like they did... :biggrin:
But I don't think they wanted war - I would consider the revolutionary war more of a 'self defense' action, not unlike WW2. War cannot always be avoided, but I'm guessing that those who want a civil war have no idea what they're asking for.
She protested the protest. She crossed the line and was removed. Seems like at this point the system worked.
Conspiracy theorist in me wonders if she didn't set it up to get back in the news. Nobody knows what the protest was about, they aren't stepping forward with a response, and she's getting all the publicity.
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Conspiracy theorist in me wonders if she didn't set it up to get back in the news. Nobody knows what the protest was about, they aren't stepping forward with a response, and she's getting all the publicity.
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Freedom of speech doesn't require that you are right - or even that you have a valid point. But it also doesn't guarantee that those to whom you are freely speaking will all agree with you - or that they will not freely speak an opposing viewpoint. It simply allows you to enter your thoughts into the marketplace of ideas without fear of landing in jail or otherwise being penalized by the government. .
I think she was wrong to interfere with their little tantrum the way she did. Presumably, they were the ones who procured the Chinese-made cloth with the stars and stripes from the local Walmart (making a couple of assumptions here). Thus, it is their property to do with as they please.
I do, however, agree with those who point out the irony that if the symbol being trampled were a Koran, a rainbow flag or something else then they would have been implored not to do so because it might upset some people. Have we gotten to the point where people are not upset at seing the American flag trampled? If so, then the protesters may have picked the wrong symbol. If desecrating the flag elicits a collective shoulder shrug, then what is the point?
I think she was wrong to interfere with their little tantrum the way she did. Presumably, they were the ones who procured the Chinese-made cloth with the stars and stripes from the local Walmart (making a couple of assumptions here). Thus, it is their property to do with as they please.
I do, however, agree with those who point out the irony that if the symbol being trampled were a Koran, a rainbow flag or something else then they would have been implored not to do so because it might upset some people. Have we gotten to the point where people are not upset at seing the American flag trampled? If so, then the protesters may have picked the wrong symbol. If desecrating the flag elicits a collective shoulder shrug, then what is the point?
Yes exactly.....that's my point. Seebell.
Why not verbalize the point of the protest instead of assaulting the country's flag of all things. :conf2:
Like that will somehow win support for their cause.....pretty lame if you ask me.
I totally agree with your post!I saw this article earlier and it brings to mind the thoughts I've have many times when reading about similar scenes... I think it would be nearly impossible for me to restrain myself from doing exactly what Manhart did.
God bless her.
Now I've got some googling to do
If that is true, then to me, that shows as much of a lack of respect for the flag as walking on it (my bold above).
In the abstract, you are correct, IMHO.
But if you took a poll - I bet much more people would be upset about walking all over it.
Different levels entirely of disrespect.
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