Roger Goodell is a buffoon. My interest in the NFL (beyond Alabama grads) has waned to near zero. This was so much to do about nothing.
News Article: Tom Brady likely knew of 'inappropriate activities,' Deflategate report says
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Me too. I am interested in the success of the Bama players and will usually watch the playoffs and SB. Occasionally a game get really tight and will catch my interest but the need to be political and push silly things like this make the whole league less.
Brady just forever lost in the court of public opinion. The public would have been with him on circumstantial - right up to the time he destroyed the phone.
If Roger Goodell had determined the ball deflation was not true, it would have vindicated the Patriots. Once he found it was - what exactly was he supposed to do?
If he did nothing in the first place, the whispers of him being Kraft's boy get louder and louder. Once he had scientists investigate it he didn't have a whole lot of choice.
And Brady lost this one with the cell phone destruction coupled with refusal to turn over texts to those two dudes.
Was this a very big deal? No. But the commissioner has to run the league fairly for all 31 teams.
Had Brady just said he did it then he'd likely have gotten one or two games.
And btw - I agree with you that the NFL lost the zest for me years ago. I haven't watched a regular season NFL game since the end of the 2009 season.
Other than emails or texts about deflategate, are there any other conceivable reasons why Brady would have "destroyed" his cell phone?
The determining factor was Ted Wells saying he felt Tom Brady "more likely than not" knew. That was it.
Don't know many folks against a punishment against Brady. Most, including myself, find the punishment more than excessive.
I agree. If a team has a QB that wants to throw a football with no air in it what's the problem if his coach agrees with it. Well that may go toooooo far 'cause you just might have trouble finding the ball, if it's hidden inside someone's jersey or jockey strap. The defense just needs to defend it. If a QB wants to put as much air as possible in the ball, same thing.
I too watch the NFL ONLY to see former Alabama Crimson Tide players. I read about the Super Bowl ONLY to read about Alabama players or to look at what Roman Numeral they are currently using. Let's see, I have watched XLIX Super Bowls and several NFL Championship games prior to that. What a waste of time! Just think, if I had not wasted that time, I could have ……. (done many other things much more interesting and personally rewarding).
College football is MUCH more entertaining and exciting than the BNFL. (Boring National Football League)
I think the current NFL Commissioner is the worst yet!
The story from Brady's camp is that goodell trusted Brady's attorney to see if there was any thing to the ball deflation on the cell phone and never actually ordered him to turn it over. If that is true then that is on goodell for being a moron and not Brady taking advantage on his stupidity.
Public opinion means nothing to Brady and why should it when he has four Super Bowl rings and 3 Super Bowl Mvps, and 6 Super Bowl appearances vs manning's Super Bowl numbers. Unless he bets on his own games then he is a first ballot hof.
Also how did goodell decide on the punishment and what is Brady being punished for? Is it not for cooperating with investigation??? If so then tell me why Brett farce does the exact same thing when the nfl is trying to find the truth about his mistress and when he doesn't cooperate it's just a fine and not a suspension. If it is for cheating then tell me how to factor the proper amount of games suspended for when goodell gave roethlisberger 4 for rape and originally gave rice 2 for knocking out his fiancé?
Goodell won't win in court with it either going to Minnesota or Massachusetts. And if the Brady destroying his cellphone was such a big reason for the nfl giving him four games then why did goodell wait until now to drop that bombshell? It seems more like a last ditch effort to not appear weak yet again, but it's probably not going to end well for roger
Agreed, although you get into areas of things like civil rights, too.
He just went from being a sympathetic figure who might have gotten a raw deal to a guy tried to cover up the deed - that's the one thing nobody is going to stand for outside of the brainwashed sections of Patriot Nation.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say, "conspiracy to deflate footballs below regulation."
I think he's suspended for the ball deflation and now the appeal is upheld on the basis of not cooperating.
Surely, I don't have to explain to you the difference between an off-the-field matter and an on-the-field matter, especially since billions are gambled on the NFL every year.
Two happened off the field, one on the field (or at least related to on the field). Not a difficult concept.
Also, Big Ben got SIX for violating a personal conduct policy for a crime for which he was never charged. It was later reduced to four. Two games was his standard supsension and so far as we know at this point, the NFL was unaware of the Rice video at the time of the suspension. After seeing it, the suspension was six - and then another video popped up and Rice lost everything.
Problem for Brady is he'll then have to answer questions under oath that he's already NOT answered when NOT under oath. He'd also be the one keeping the Deflate-gate story alive for however long the case sits in legal purgatory.
It wasn't; it was the reason for RATIFYING the already given suspension for four games.
Are you actually suggesting Brady didn't know the NFL knew his cell phone was destroyed? We might ask Brady the same thing (these things are enlightening when the same demands are made of both sides).
Maybe Goodell didn't know. Maybe he wanted to give Brady a chance to explain and then hit him with the previous cell phone. Maybe Goodell was too busy watching the Ray Rice video over and over again. I don't know, but I don't guess anyone else does, either.
Maybe, maybe not.
We are in total agreement on the length of the suspension - it was too long in the first place.
However anyone feels about the original 4 game suspension, it's probably a moot point now. Brady has compounded the situation now by destroying his phone (aka coverup). At this point he should just shut up and take the punishment. There is not much to gain, if anything, for him to continue on this path.
If all that is true (on his Facebook page), then he's got a pretty strong case. I'd say this story is not over yet...
Kraft has come out swinging too. This is getting ugly for Roger Goodell -- what a maroon he is.
I honestly believe that this whole thing revolves around RG's ego and desire to prove he is the main man and in control...
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