Alabama Governor Orders Confederate Flag Removed

CrimsonNagus · Jun 24, 2015

I'm so glad all of this is happening, I feel much safer now. That flag has killed way to many people, the world is now safe again!

This country is so dumb. The flag is not the problem, the criminals are the problem but, let's keep fighting the flag! Now that flags are falling, has justice been served for those who died in the actual crime? Nope. If that stupid boy didn't have the flag, would he have still killed anyone? Probably.

People are fighting the wrong fight here. Forcing one culture to abandon their heritage, even if you despise that heritage, will not improve race relations, it will only make them worse.

major tidefan · Jun 24, 2015

Crimson1967 · Jun 24, 2015

Why does everyone hate the CSA? Thus country was founded by slaveholding traitors.

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Displaced Bama Fan · Jun 24, 2015

dWarriors88 said:
Sigh.. Wonder what the left will be outraged about next week?

Are you a heterosexual, Christian, white male and alive? I think that may answer your question.

tidegrandpa · Jun 24, 2015

Displaced Bama Fan said:
Are you a heterosexual, Christian, white male and alive? I think that may answer your question.

And employed, married once, without needing a schematic to determine your relatives.

Displaced Bama Fan · Jun 24, 2015

tidegrandpa said:
And employed, married once, without needing a schematic to determine your relatives.

Nice adds.

Bama Reb · Jun 24, 2015

Bazza said:
From Gray's link:

The Confederate battle flag was unceremoniously removed from the Alabama state Capitol grounds Wednesday morning following an order from Gov. Robert Bentley (R).

"We are facing some major issues in this state regarding the budget and other matters that we need to deal with. This had the potential to become a major distraction as we go forward. I have taxes to raise, we have work to do. And it was my decision that the flag needed to come down.”

A distraction?

Frankly, I didn't know he had the authority to order it's removal.

TIDE-HSV · Jun 24, 2015

Bama Reb said:
Frankly, I didn't know he had the authority to order it's removal.

Why not? Unlike SC, where their presence was mandated by the legislature, they were placed there by executive order in the first place. Folsom took them down. Patterson left them down. Wallace put them back up and no governor since, until Bentley, has taken them down. In the present atmosphere, I'd be surprised if the legislature ordered the replacement of them...

dvldog · Jun 25, 2015

This flag flap is yet another step towards a faceless, homogeneous, sterile, anything goes society that will be reflected more and more in our government and it's policies. Not the first time this has happened, nor the last. It will not end well.

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Displaced Bama Fan · Jun 25, 2015

dvldog said:
This flag flap is yet another step towards a faceless, homogeneous, sterile, anything goes society that will be reflected more and more in our government and it's policies. Not the first time this has happened, nor the last. It will not end well.

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The flag flap is a distraction. What is the left hand doing?

HartselleTider · Jun 25, 2015

Might as well eschew the flag. It stands for independence, strength, and a refusal to allow others to dictate how to do things....qualities Americans lost some time ago. It obviously has no place in society today, especially in the land of the permit and home of the offended.

Next up... the American flag.

Divide everyone by race, religion, culture, sexual preference, and income. It's the only way the liberal left can thrive. Keep 'em all fighting and then conquer.

92tide · Jun 25, 2015

HartselleTider said:
It stands for independence, strength, and a refusal to allow others to dictate how to do things....qualities Americans lost some time ago.

indeed, them fancy pants elitists cant tell us strong independent folk what to do

Displaced Bama Fan · Jun 25, 2015

92tide said:
indeed, them fancy pants elitists cant tell us strong independent folk what to do

Do you ever have anything substantive to contribute or just smart arsed remarks trying to torpedo everyone else?

crimsonaudio · Jun 25, 2015

It's weird how some refuse to accept that the confederate flag means totally different things to different people. To some people it IS a symbol of hatred and oppression, and not accepting that is willful ignorance.

My parents clearly remember integration here in the south, and the confederate flag was used prominently by many who supported segregation. Acting like that doesn't matter when the flag is flown on government buildings is silly.

Tidewater · Jun 25, 2015

crimsonaudio said:
It's weird how some refuse to accept that the confederate flag means totally different things to different people. To some people it IS a symbol of hatred and oppression, and not accepting that is willful ignorance.

My parents clearly remember integration here in the south, and the confederate flag was used prominently by many who supported segregation. Acting like that doesn't matter when the flag is flown on government buildings is silly.

I understand that. In the case of South Carolina it is a veterans' flag (square ANV flag) on a veterans' monument. Not that I expect it will matter much.

What about a first national on the veterans monument?

That is kind of what georgia did in order to avoid the governor keeping his campaign promise to allow the people of Georgia to vote on the 1956 state flag. Th legislature adopted this instead:

crimsonaudio · Jun 25, 2015

Tidewater said:
I understand that. In the case of South Carolina it is a veterans' flag (square ANV flag) on a veterans' monument. Not that I expect it will matter much.

Yah, I don't think the other flags would be found as offensive, honestly. Some folks will figure out that's what they stand for and make it an issue, but the 'bars and stars' are the real issue.

Displaced Bama Fan · Jun 25, 2015

1950s

Conservative, normal clothing

2015

Ghetto culture

I don't want my kids to have to go to school with the ghetto culture.

Tidewater · Jun 25, 2015

crimsonaudio said:
Yah, I don't think the other flags would be found as offensive, honestly. Some folks will figure out that's what they stand for and make it an issue, but the 'bars and stars' are the real issue.

Trivial point, but the "stars and bars" was the name of the First National (pictured above). It was replaced because on the battlefield of 1st Manassa's, if there was no wind, it was difficult to distinguish from the Stars and Stripes. So Gus Beauregard asked William Porcher Miles to have a new battle flag made.
Shelby Foote, also of Memphis, noted that southerners let "yay-hoos" use that flag during the struggle over desegregation and they permanently lost the battle of its meaning.

dayhiker · Jun 25, 2015

Tidewater said:
Trivial point, but the "stars and bars" was the name of the First National (pictured above). It was replaced because on the battlefield of 1st Manassa's, if there was no wind, it was difficult to distinguish from the Stars and Stripes. So Gus Beauregard asked William Porcher Miles to have a new battle flag made.
Shelby Foote, also of Memphis, noted that southerners let "yay-hoos" use that flag during the struggle over desegregation and they permanently lost the battle of its meaning.

Excellent backstory information. Thanks for sharing it.

92tide · Jun 25, 2015

Displaced Bama Fan said:
Do you ever have anything substantive to contribute or just smart arsed remarks trying to torpedo everyone else?

i just post here to confirm the constant attack on your whiteness

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