decision is in, Gay marriage now legal

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB11486026120286184909004581077903807516280

The reason for all this is that the right for men to marry men or women to marry women is only half of the equation—and not even the most important half at that.The other half involves antidiscrimination statutes and regulations, not to mention the discretion of federal, state and even private bureaucracies regarding everything from funding and accreditation to tax exemption.

In short, there is nothing live-and-let-live about the way this movement has operated the past few years, and to pretend otherwise requires a willful blindness. Now, with Obergefell, the full furies have been released.


As Justice Samuel Alito suggested in his dissent, thousands of Americans who never dreamed that the issue would affect them will soon get highly personal lessons in how the legalization of same-sex marriage by judicial fiat threatens their schools, their institutions and even their livelihoods. This is not your father’s culture war.

A century ago, another Supreme Court justice famously wrote that the Constitution “is made for people of fundamentally differing views.” How far we have traveled since.

Those seeking to crush all dissent from the new judicial orthodoxy on marriage will not always win, not least because the right to the free exercise of religion—in bald contrast to Mr. Kennedy’s right to dignity—is in fact in the Constitution. Still, however individual cases may turn out, by foreclosing the option for democratic debate and compromise the Supreme Court has ensured a bitter national harvest.

Welcome to Justice Kennedy’s world. Where upholding the Kennedy definition of liberty—the right to define your own truth—turns out to mean denying that same right to millions of Americans who define marriage and truth in a way different from his.
 

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Practically every gun rights site has some reference to the decision and an attempt to apply the decision criteria to open carry laws. Good luck with that on this court, but from how many are talking about it, there will probably be a case.
 

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Practically every gun rights site has some reference to the decision and an attempt to apply the decision criteria to open carry laws. Good luck with that on this court, but from how many are talking about it, there will probably be a case.
Good luck trying to take some good ole boy's gun away.
 

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Practically every gun rights site has some reference to the decision and an attempt to apply the decision criteria to open carry laws. Good luck with that on this court, but from how many are talking about it, there will probably be a case.
Being a gun aficionado, (bought a new AR-15 yesterday), I've noticed them also. All I can do is call the legal reasoning "tortured." Public safety has always been carved out and allocated to states' control more so than any other area, 2nd A notwithstanding. It doesn't port over...
 

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Practically every gun rights site has some reference to the decision and an attempt to apply the decision criteria to open carry laws. Good luck with that on this court, but from how many are talking about it, there will probably be a case.
Yes if the license for one "right" must be recognized across State lines, then they all should be. Of course SCOTUS failed to show consistency when they ruled on the ACA and homo marriage, so who knows.
Here' a good piece on that:
http://allenbwest.com/2015/06/yeeha...y-marriage-ruling-will-make-liberals-explode/
 

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States already recognize drivers' licenses from other states. I assume such licenses are issued primarily for safety purposes, and I believe more people are killed and injured by cars than they are guns.
 

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Roy Moore's lawyer to Gov. Bentley: 'Public officials are ministers of God"

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/20...gov_bentl.html#incart_most-commented_politics

Will you become complicit in the takeover by the wicked?" writes Johnson, director of the legal staff of the Administrative Office of Courts. The AOC operationally runs Alabama's court system which is headed by Moore.

Johnson begins the letter: "Jesus Christ is Lord of all."
That is followed soon thereafter with: "Public officials are ministers of God assigned the duty of punishing the wicked and protecting the righteous. You cannot serve two masters: you must pick -- God or Satan."
Johnson ends the letter urging disobedience of the court ruling.

I think he should find a new job.!
 

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Roy Moore's lawyer to Gov. Bentley: 'Public officials are ministers of God"

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/20...gov_bentl.html#incart_most-commented_politics

Will you become complicit in the takeover by the wicked?" writes Johnson, director of the legal staff of the Administrative Office of Courts. The AOC operationally runs Alabama's court system which is headed by Moore.

Johnson begins the letter: "Jesus Christ is Lord of all."
That is followed soon thereafter with: "Public officials are ministers of God assigned the duty of punishing the wicked and protecting the righteous. You cannot serve two masters: you must pick -- God or Satan."
Johnson ends the letter urging disobedience of the court ruling.

I think he should find a new job.!
its a good thing these folks are standing between us and sharia law
 

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Roy Moore's lawyer to Gov. Bentley: 'Public officials are ministers of God"

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/20...gov_bentl.html#incart_most-commented_politics

Will you become complicit in the takeover by the wicked?" writes Johnson, director of the legal staff of the Administrative Office of Courts. The AOC operationally runs Alabama's court system which is headed by Moore.

Johnson begins the letter: "Jesus Christ is Lord of all."
That is followed soon thereafter with: "Public officials are ministers of God assigned the duty of punishing the wicked and protecting the righteous. You cannot serve two masters: you must pick -- God or Satan."
Johnson ends the letter urging disobedience of the court ruling.

I think he should find a new job.!
I concur.

its a good thing these folks are standing between us and sharia law
We wouldn't want the crazies ruling us.
 

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Roy Moore's lawyer to Gov. Bentley: 'Public officials are ministers of God"

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/20...gov_bentl.html#incart_most-commented_politics

Will you become complicit in the takeover by the wicked?" writes Johnson, director of the legal staff of the Administrative Office of Courts. The AOC operationally runs Alabama's court system which is headed by Moore.

Johnson begins the letter: "Jesus Christ is Lord of all."
That is followed soon thereafter with: "Public officials are ministers of God assigned the duty of punishing the wicked and protecting the righteous. You cannot serve two masters: you must pick -- God or Satan."
Johnson ends the letter urging disobedience of the court ruling.

I think he should find a new job.!
I think he should be fired, but of course that is exactly what he wants so he can scream "see we're being persecuted for our beliefs"
 

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Oh. I thought the "I think he should be fired" comment was directed at Judge Roy Moore. I misread the original post. My mistake.
understood. my guess is that moore would have to be the one firing this guy and i don't see that occurring as i think this guy is communicating moore's position
 

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